I agree the meaning of "discouraged" is what we need here. But motor vehicles are only discouraged if they aren't local traffic. Otherwise they are perfectly fine.
So, I think the motor_vehicle:advisory=destination covers these two concepts, and is a better representation. Ian. On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 18:58, Benjamin Ceravolo <[email protected]> wrote: > I feel, as though discourage or discouraged is already an advisory term > (you can't advise a recommendation if advise is a synonym of recommend). > > So I would think "motor_vehicle=discouraged" would be most appropriate. > > Just my thoughts. > > Ben > > On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 18:12, Luke Stewart <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Perhaps "motor_vehicle=discouraged"? >> >> From the wiki: >> A legal right of way exists (see yes >> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Dyes>) but usage is >> officially discouraged (e.g., HGVs on narrow but passable lanes). Only if >> marked by a traffic sign (subjective otherwise). >> >> Although that may be getting too far away from the meaning of the sign, >> but the original intention is to discourage through and non-local traffic >> >> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 15:31, Andrew Harvey <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I guess https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access does say "Access >>> values describe legal permissions/restrictions. What happens on the ground >>> may be different: for instance, many footpaths are used as de facto bike >>> paths, without a legal right to do so. (Various 'greyzone' tags have been >>> proposed to deal with such situations, but this is controversial and is not >>> described here.)" >>> >>> Similar to existing "maxspeed:advisory" >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:advisory perhaps if >>> these aren't legal restrictions but still signposted on the ground we could >>> use "motor_vehicle:advisory=destination". Does that work better? >>> >>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 13:04, Luke Stewart <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> As far as I have read, these signs are not enforceable by councils, nor >>>> do they appear in the NSW (or Australian) Road Rules. So unless the road >>>> itself is on private property and this sign is present, the access would >>>> still be public and it has the same meaning as discouraging the use of the >>>> street in favour of main roads. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-au mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-au mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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