As I have said in other forums Websites are not the law, unless it is the legislation website.
From: osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au <osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2019 2:59 AM To: 'OSM Australian Talk List' <talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] local traffic only Well, the website of the Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads website specifically lists “Local Traffic Only” as an official state level sign. https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/instruction (see section “Local traffic restriction signs”) From: Michael James <mich...@techdrive.com.au<mailto:mich...@techdrive.com.au>> Sent: Monday, 11 November 2019 09:20 To: OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] local traffic only They existed prior to 1997 and were removed when the national rules were introduced that year. It’s likely that local councils are unaware that they no longer have any legal purpose. From: Sebastian S. <mapp...@consebt.de<mailto:mapp...@consebt.de>> Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2019 9:50 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>; Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com<mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>>; Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com<mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> Cc: OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] local traffic only So the sign is put up by the council. Is it not an official sign? Could someone elaborate on the legal side mentioned here. E.g. is there catalogue of street signs in the road rules and this one is not among them? Are people confusing lax enforcement of the sign with it having no legal meaning? On 9 November 2019 11:37:49 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com<mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 02:24, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com<mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: Why it would be irrelevant? access tag family is for legal access (with some space for officially discouraged access), access=destination is for "transit is illegal", not "local residents dislike transit traffic". OSM is not a place to add a nonexisting ban on transit traffic Yeah realised this later, see my other post in this thread at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-November/013188.html, which I suggested motor_vehicle:advisory=destination to tag a suggested or advised but maybe not legally enforceable destination only restriction. On Sat, 9 Nov 2019 at 01:55, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com<mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: Is it "local traffic only" as in "resident only" or "no transit"? Is permission required to enter this area? AFAIK there is no tagging scheme for distinguishing "only with permission of homeowner" and "available to all residents of closed community". It just means this road is indented to be used if you're traveling to somewhere along this road, but not if you're just driving through as a shortcut. It's still public land, not private property.
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