I think it'll be much easier to request a waiver for a wider set of
Victorian open data. DELWP has been very accommodating and kindly granted
us a waiver for Vicmap, so I can't see there being a problem with other CC
BY data like
https://discover.data.vic.gov.au/dataset/state-forest-public-land-management-wms
.

In hindsight it was a mistake of mine to request the waiver with a narrow
scope of applicable datasets, it's just the waiver templates from LWG
specified a "Dataset" field and I didn't reword it to apply to any CC BY
published open data.

It'll probably take some time to get the paperwork back from DELWP, via
their [email protected] email but we should start the process.
Did you want to do that Ian?



On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 19:20, Little Maps <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all, a brief update on Vic State Forest datasets... My suggestion that
> the VicMap Crown Land Tenure database was "a mess" probably had anyone who
> knows about GIS data structures rolling their eyes at my ignorance. It
> didn't make any sense to me either, so I spent a couple more days studying
> metadata files and joining multiple VicMap datasets (which we have a waiver
> to use) to try to find the elusive State Forests boundaries.
>
> The upshot is that either: (1) they definitely aren't there, or (2) I'm
> missing something blatantly obvious, because after trial after trial, I
> couldn't find them - other than the coarse outlines in the VicMap Lite
> data. (Any suggestions on things to try are most welcome).
>
> Ironically, the best approximation I could get to the real boundaries (as
> shown in the new PLM25 dataset, which we don't yet have a waiver to use)
> was to subtract all of the crown reserves in the Crown Lands Tenure
> database from all of the crown lands in the larger Property database (which
> contains every land parcel in the state). In theory, this should have
> deleted all of the state forests from the results, but they remained, plus
> a lot of flotsam and jetsom. Essentially you can find the State Forests
> boundaries through a process of elimination, but not by explicit filtering
> it seems.
>
> With a few extra steps, it is possible to get a good approximation of a
> statewide map of State Forests, with extremely accurate parcel boundaries
> on each, but no-one would ever want to go through the process. So, yes, it
> is possible to extract accurate parcel boundaries for most State Forests
> from the VicMap dataset, but it's a real pain. The newer Public Land
> Management PLM 25 delivers everything in one simple step, and is a lot
> easier and more confidence-inspiring to work with. Cheers Ian
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