Thanks Phil, speaking for myself, I am very happy for you to take the lead. The reason I suggest writing aaronsta a letter is that the DWG would prefer us to exhaust all avenues of engagement before calling them in.

I don't think we (the OSM community) have been particularly good at telling him how he has been going.

We tell him that he is a "Great Mapper (Regularly Active)"
And that he is #14 in Australia.      Hdyc

Any criticism he ignores as a few disgruntled people, he gets no feedback from the community as a whole.

I have contacted Pascal Neis about hdyc. I think he rejigged hdyc a few months ago to an emphasis on quality not quantity, maybe it could go further.

Tony

I am happy to send an email to DWG with an overview of concerns. Maybe other folks can gather a listing of any desired changesets for reversion and if all or just some wiki edits should be reverted.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 13 February 2022 2:19 PM
To: 'OSM-Au' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

There is also that he seems to be deleting all source tags on any loaded objects with many of his changesets.

I wrote a changeset comment on one of the changesets that do that, to which he has simply not replied. (My changeset comments about that and the PBN have been made at the same time, he replied to the later, not the former).

This is exactly the behaviour that earned him a block and a mass revert of scores of changesets 5 years ago. (See my link to the talk-au archive with posts about that earlier in this discussion).

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Sent: Sunday, 13 February 2022 10:37
To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]>
Cc: OSM-Au <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

Graeme

Yes, he has made big changes to the documentation and the map. The same 2 issues apply to both, some of the changes are contrary to community expectations and changes of such scale should be made after consultation. I believe he is acting in good faith but his balance between contribution and consultation is badly out.

The issue for us is to explain to him what the expectations are for consultation without alienating him.

Tony
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 at 09:55, Sam Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:


The other thing that occurs to me about this discussion is that
aaronsta is not actually subscribed to this list — does anyone
know? I might leave a comment on the changeset instead...


Not having a go at you blokes interested in the bike routes :-), but
the whole conversation started because Aaronsta made massive changes
to how bikeways etc are written up on the Guidelines!

I don't know about anywhere else, but he has changed them to say that
cycling on footpaths is illegal in Qld, which is totally wrong!

 Thanks

Graeme

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