I went for a cycle along SW8 this afternoon, and I now think that at least that route (and the others if they're similar) should be kept in OSM. It's not signposted wonderfully, and there are a few places where following the signs wasn't possible, but there were definitely quite a lot of signs — including some new ones that have been put up since recent roadworks in various places.

The state Department of Transport still publish the bike maps <https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/active-transport/at_CYC_map_PerthFremantle-Stirling.pdf> (although I can't find an index to them on their site; they're discoverable with a search <https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/public/SearchTransport.asp?&q=bike%20map&start=0> though).

Here are some examples of the signs (I took a few more photos <https://samwilson.id.au/T2006> too):

Image of the file attached to this post.

Image of the file attached to this post.


On 11/2/22 16:16, Sam Wilson wrote:
I'm also a Perth cyclist, and I think I pretty much agree with what others have said. These routes should stay on the map if they're signposted on the ground, but other than that I think they're often not particularly great routes. I must admit that the cyclemap render now (since the removal of these routes) actually looks a lot more like my intuitive idea of what cycling looks like in Perth — i.e. there are some good purpose-made paths along the freeways, and other than that there's not much. With the official routes, it always looked like there was this amazing cross-cutting network of cycleways, and actually that's not really the case.

—Sam


On 11/2/22 13:44, [email protected] wrote:
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 01:11:54 +1000
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Well, he has answered a changeset comment:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116656873

I'll leave it to the WA OSM community if that's a valid reason to simply
delete
a whole bunch of routes for which there definitely are signs on the
ground,
and what to do about it.

I am from Perth, and am a cyclist.  I agree with aaronsta that these routes are pretty useless.  I have often looked at the signage and wondered about OSM & the usefulness of the routes.  I might not have gone to the extent of
deleting them, but it is probably the right thing to do (they are
pretty-much obsolete and I doubt if anyone uses them)

Ian


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