Hey Phil,
Thank you so much for your efforts so far!
The tags on the relations are much more valuable as they tend to be used
by newer and more recently updated data consumers. The network tags on
the individual ways are more likely to be legacy supported
Ideally both would be updated at the same time, but I'm increasingly
thinking that updating the ways might need to be a gradual transition.
Maybe we leave the ways to be progressively updated as routes change or
be modified?
For reference, the Americana project (
https://github.com/ZeLonewolf/openstreetmap-americana/issues) will use
the relation tags to render Australian road shields on the map.
Dian
On 2022-10-02 11:45, Phil Wyatt wrote:
Hi Dian,
I have done all the route relations for the A, B and C roads in Tassie
and added the network=AU:TAS. I wasn't aware that it was also needed on
the individual ways?? I understand they have the corresponding ref tag
(A1, B22 etc) but is there a need for the network tag on all the ways?
It's a bit unclear on the wiki as it only talks about routes.
I think Tassie is a bit easier as we only have one National route and
no numeric routes.
I used the following Overpass Turbo to collect up the appropriate class
of roads
[out:xml][timeout:25];
{{geocodeArea:tasmania}}->.searchArea;
(
relation["route"="road"]["type"="route"]["ref"~"^A"]["network"!="AU:TAS"]["addr:country"="AU"]["addr:state"="TAS"](area.searchArea);
);
out meta;
;
Easily edited for other classes
Cheers - Phil
From: Dian Ågesson <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2022 8:49 PM
To: OSM Australian Talk List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Proposed Bulk Edit: Road Route Numbering.
Hello,
Just an update regarding this piece of work.
I was able to complete a bulk edit in Western Australia, however I
found that it took a significant amount of effort. WA is the "easiest"
of the states to convert, as it has less numbered routes and no
alphanumeric routes to worry about.
Unfortunately, I don't believe a bulk edit for the other states is
practical. Relations are much easier to update, but segments of
highways that are shared by multiple routes are inherently manual
tasks.
I will continue updating relations where I can, but any help would be
greatly appreciated tagging highway segments.
Dian
On 2022-09-20 20:13, Dian Ågesson wrote:
Hello list,
You may recall earlier this month the road route tagging guidelines
were updated to adopt the "AU:" country prefix in the network field.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2022-September/016533.html
In order to make the transition as quick and seamless as possible, I'd
like to propose a bulk edit to adjust the network tabs across
Australia.
The edit would:
* Change all road network tags to use the AU prefix in alignment with
the new tagging guidelines
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Routes)
If there is support for this effort, I will make the change in one
weeks time.
Would appreciate your thoughts and concerns.
Dian
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