I'll agree that the things mentioned in the picture are often micromapping. But on the other hand how does an international app knows all this when there is no OSM+ database that contains all this country specific information ?
I keep on wondering how useful the routes are for routing without timetables. An application that wants to give me the opportunity to plan my travel via public transportation needs this I think. It's of little use to tell me that I can arrive at my destination on a Sunday with bus X when that bus only passes there on weekdays. But of course, this is a totally different problem/discussion. regards m On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > All bus stops of De Lijn have timetable information, so I don't see why > we'd map that explicitely. I think the same goes for TEC. Even the stops of > TEC I can verify in Flanders have timetables. > > Sometimes the name is present in big letters on the shelter. I don't see > why we'd map that either. A €10000 pole with real time information does > seem interesting to tag, although they don't work more than half the time... > > Another tag that might make sense for a shelter is lit=yes. Some shelters, > at least in Flanders, have solar panels on top and when it gets dark a > small lamp can turn on when somebody moves around in the shelter. Still, > even that is much detail with very little benefit, except maybe for those > who are into statistics. If we'd ever manage to actually map all of those. > > Anyway, I'm mostly interested in adding information to stops, so they can > be identified for use in route relations and to indicate whether there are > facilities for disabled people, but that is rather detail to be added to > the highway=platform/public_transport=platform way. > > tactile_paving and wheelchair. > > Cheers, > > Jo > > > 2014-08-21 7:24 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <[email protected]>: > > Just to make it clear: the picture is not about tagging bus lines, it's >> about tagging bus stops. You refer to a page on the routes. >> Furthermore. it was not a question, I just found it a nice summary for >> what's in the wiki (probably somewhere under the public transport pages). >> Hence the smiley in the subject :-) >> There were a couple of tags that I had not heard of before (strip and >> the ones related to the time table and other information in the shelter). I >> doubt this information can be found in the Belgian (part of the) wiki. This >> does not always follows the evolution of the other communities. >> >> regards >> >> m >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM, André Pirard <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On 2014-08-20 07:40, Marc Gemis wrote : >>> >>> https://twitter.com/JLZIMMERMANN/status/501356038499868672/photo/1 >>> >>> >>> The answers to those questions about our conventions should be found >>> here, Marc >>> WikiProject Belgium/Conventions/Bus and tram lines (tagging) >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Bus_and_tram_lines#Tagging> >>> so that anybody can tag without asking the same questions and getting >>> the same or different answers over and over again. >>> I had to made modifications to those few lines for readability. >>> But there was no answer when I tried to raise a discussion about >>> missing, essential infos. >>> >>> Mainly, how must a route extension (optional detour) be represented >>> (unclear "(at least) two separate type >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:type>=route >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:type%3Droute> relations")? >>> Must the detour (e.g. a small loop that some but not all buses follow) >>> be represented standing alone (A - B - D - E and B - C - D) or must the >>> whole route be repeated with and without the extension (A - B - D - E and A >>> - B - C - D - E) >>> The problem is that let us say 3 extensions potentially make 8 whole >>> routes. >>> Also, if the extension is at the end of the line (A - B - D - E [- F]), >>> is it OK to represent the route only once (A - B - C - D - E - F)? >>> >>> André. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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