How does this relate to the building:part=yes strategy that L'imaginaire has been playing with, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283645760
2018-04-18 15:56 GMT+02:00 Ubipo . <ubipo.ski...@gmail.com>: > After furter consideration I think indoor=level combined with > amenity=restaurant should solve most problems. > Improving the map would then be as simple as not editing the general > indoor=level and just drawing new ways for individual rooms (not tagged > amenity=restaurant). > > A restaurant on multiple floors would indeed be tricky as indoor=level > implies a single level, although I think just adding level=0;1 shouldn't be > that bad, right? > > On 18 April 2018 at 13:58, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> how does someone "improve" your mapping to add a separate area for >> room=toilets ? nested room areas ? split it off ? >> >> m. >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Ubipo . <ubipo.ski...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Regarding the housenumbers: street and number is as said probably not >> needed >> > and better reserved for the actual building, although a specialised >> > addr:addition=a could be useful for the rooms. >> > Regarding room=restaurant, I think that tag is perfectly fine. It just >> > indicates the restaurant in it's entirety, with dining room, kitchen >> etc. >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 12:10 marc marc <marc_marc_...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> for the addr : it look like strange that the room is in a building that >> >> doesn't have the same addr:housenumber as the building. >> >> >> >> for multiple floors poi, you can draw all room with level=* tag >> >> or as a first step only use indoor=yes for the whole area >> >> >> >> room=restaurant look like also strange for me. >> >> a restaurant is several room=* item : kitchen, dining room, toilets, >> >> cloakroom >> >> so what's a room=restaurant ? it can not be the same as the area used >> >> for amenity=restaurant. maybe it should be the area for the dining >> room. >> >> the wiki advice to put both tag to the same polygon look like wrong. >> >> >> >> >> >> Le 18. 04. 18 à 11:56, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> >> > o, I forgot, what about a restaurant that occupies multiple floors ? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> The idea of using indoor mapping is good, and it's probably the >> future >> >> >> to solve all the problems you mention. (we had a similar discussion >> >> >> last Friday on the Riot channel) >> >> >> >> >> >> Some remarks: >> >> >> >> >> >> - does it make sense for a "room" to have an house number and a >> street >> >> >> ? I would expect those on the building, and floor or level or so on >> >> >> the room. >> >> >> - I'm not familiar enough with the simple indoor tagging, but I >> would >> >> >> expect that a restaurant exists of multiple rooms (dining, toilets, >> >> >> kitchen) not just one. >> >> >> - On the Riot channel the entrance to the restaurant was also seen >> as >> >> >> important. >> >> >> >> >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Ubipo . <ubipo.ski...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Everyone, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> A long standing question for osm mapping in cities is wether to tag >> >> >>> amenities in multi-purpose buildings as: >> >> >>> - a separate node inside the building's way >> >> >>> - the building itself, using both building=house and amenity=* >> (only >> >> >>> valid >> >> >>> with single-amenity buildings) >> >> >>> The node approach has consistency issues like these buildings: >> >> >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/656793551 . >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The area approach is more consistent but doesn't really allow >> >> >>> multi-purpose >> >> >>> buildings. >> >> >>> A third, lesser used method is to use part of the simple indoor >> >> >>> tagging >> >> >>> schema. I've used a simplified version of this for this restaurant: >> >> >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/580985564 . >> >> >>> This approach uses two overlapping ways, one for the general >> building >> >> >>> (tagged building=house) and one for the restaurant on the ground >> floor >> >> >>> (tagged room=restaurant and of course amenity=restaurant). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Drawbacks of this are for one that the two ways fully overlap. This >> >> >>> triggers >> >> >>> the JOSM validator and probably some QC tools. Secondly renderers >> >> >>> might have >> >> >>> trouble placing the icons and house numbers of multiple areas like >> >> >>> this. >> >> >>> Luckily both these problems could be fixed. The positives are of >> >> >>> course: >> >> >>> consistency and the possibility for multiple amenities (using the >> >> >>> level=* >> >> >>> key). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> What do you all think of this approach? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Kind regards, >> >> >>> Pieter (Ubipo) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Talk-be mailing list >> >> >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Talk-be mailing list >> >> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Talk-be mailing list >> >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Talk-be mailing list >> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/>
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