Cool... I've browsed the bivakzone.be-website, a few camp sites require to send an sms to the owner one day in advance or the day itself - hence the option for reservation.
On 10.01.20 14:16, Jo wrote: > Looks good. Usually there is a first come, first served rule. There is > no way to reserve a spot from 'remote'. When you arrive, you write > your name in a register. > > If the person responsible for the site passes by later that night and > finds 5 tents and 4 registrations, the tent that wasn't registered and > the last tent that was registered will have to leave and find another > spot to camp. (officially, at least, it may depend on the discretion > of the warden) > > Or alternatively, the warden may find that the first one that arrived > are already there for more than the allowed number of nights. > > I think in practice the ones that are too many would simply be asked > to leave the next morning. Possibly also depending on their mode of > transport and how far away from home they are. In the case of the ones > in Meerdaalwoud, you might be told to go to De Kluis and camp there > for a small fee. > > Jo > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 1:52 PM Pieter Vander Vennet > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > This is a very funny coincidence... Hack Your Future will do a > project on paalcampings as well! > I will send out a general mail with more information about that > project later today. We are in touch with bivakzones.be > <http://bivakzones.be> and will be discussing how they can be > added to OSM, with what tags and if we can use their site as a > source. More details about that will be following later on. > > However, to prepare that project, I would like to have a better > tagging scheme for this as well (in order to be able to get them > all at once using overpass). > > After consulting the wiki, I do think that having the tags > *'toursim=camp_site', 'camp_site=basic' and 'backcountry=yes'* > would be the correct tagging. The first indicates "an area without > facilities where it is legal to camp with tents". The second one > is even closer to the the concept of these bivouacs. At last, an > additional 'motor_vehicles=no' makes it very explicit that cars > and jeeps are not welcome - even though the 'backcountry=yes' > already implies this. > > IMHO is the key 'impromtu=yes' antithetical to the concept of a > 'paalkamping' - they indicate an /informal/ place where people > could rest, e.g. when travelling through the country /with their > jeep... /This implies both motorized vehicles and 'camping in the > wild', which is AFAIK illegal in Belgium. > > And of course, there is a lot of additional tagging possible as well. > > I've written a wiki page with an explanation, links and a proposal > for tagging. Please read them carefully. If you have extra > information and tagging that is still missing, feel free to add > this directly to the wiki page: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Bivakzones > > > > > > On 29.12.19 17:47, Guy Vanvuchelen wrote: >> >> De bivakzone Het Vinne in Zoutleeuw heb ik aangepast volgens de >> info van Jo >> >> >> >> Guy Vanvuchelen >> >> >> >> *Van:*Jo [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Verzonden:* zondag 29 december 2019 15:53 >> *Aan:* OpenStreetMap Belgium >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mappen van paalcampings >> >> >> >> Hallo Karel, >> >> >> >> Ik heb een paar jaar geleden deze toegevoegd: >> >> >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/222137187/history >> >> >> >> Die is onbereikbaar met de wagen. Ik denk niet dat het feit dat >> hij op OpenStreetMap staat ervoor zorgt dat hij overrompelt wordt. >> >> >> >> In Tielt-Winge is er vorig jaar ook één bijgekomen. Ik heb die >> wel op Mapillary, maar blijkbaar heb ik 'm nog niet toegevoegd >> aan OSM. >> >> >> >> Jo >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 3:38 PM Karel Adams <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Na enige aarzeling heb ik, proberenderwijs, de paalcamping >> Arkadia in >> Muizen toegevoegd. Zie >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7093111580#map=19/51.00354/4.54221 >> >> Het zou me helemaal niet verbazen als de initiaftiefnemers >> daarmee >> allesbehalve gelukikig waren, ik heb dan ook geschreven om >> een en ander >> toe te lichten, en om goedkeuring te vragen. Want dit soort >> initiatieven >> houdt graag een laag profiel, het allerlaatste dat men daar >> wil is dat >> er iemand met een 4x4-superdeluxekampeerbus komt >> binnengetuft. En dat >> houd ik best voor mogelijk, allicht zal er wel iemand >> campinggidsen >> opmaken op basis van overpassqueries. >> >> Misschien toch beter maar terug verwijderen? Of welke tags >> zouden er >> kunnen toegevoegd worden om het eigen karakter van zo'n >> paalcamping >> duidelijk over te brengen? Iets van "access=???" of >> "regulations=strict"? >> >> Over het concept van paalcampings kan men meer lezen op o.a. >> http://www.bivakzone.be/ >> >> Karel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Pieter Vander Vennet > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Vander Vennet
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