Hello everyone, I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the work twice !
The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in the streetname ! BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he is working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels and that his works is almost complete ! So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project ! For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the `name:etymology:wikidata` ! My workflow is the following : * Make the list of streets in Brussels ; * Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ; * Take the already existing `wikidata` and `name:etymology:wikidata` tags that already exist (on both relations and ways) ; * Romain will provide us the `wikidata` tag for all the streets ; * Next Monday (17/02), we (OSMBE + OKBE + WikimediaBE) organize and event to look for all the missing wikidata/wikipedia page related to the streets in Brussels ; * Workload will be splitted by municipality ; * NOTHING will be added to OSM or Wikipedia/Wikidata during the event ; * Once we have the `wikidata` and/org `name:etymology:wikidata` tags for each street in Brussels, we'll add those 2 tags to OSM ; * Exact procedure is not defined yet ; * Procedure will be documented and we'll ask feedback from the community BEFORE running it ; Everything will be documented in a GitHub repository and on OSM wiki (as soon as I have a little time) ! Long story short, any feedback is more than welcome but let's not step upon each other and try to coordinate our effort ! I've been hired by Open Knowledge Belgium to work on that project. Have a nice day ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 09:06, Jo a écrit : > OK, in that case, we'll have to go back to the original source, Urbis if we > want to add coordinates for the streets to Wikidata. > > I always thought that if I'm the one who adds features to OSM myself, or if > I'm the one who places them at their correct spot, using aerial imagery that > the data was mine and I could contribute it to Wikidata, if that pleases me. > But maybe I shouldn't link back to OSM in that case in the reference url. > > Seppe, Joost and Jonathan's project is about linking through > name:etymology:wikidata to persons, and add those persons to Wikidata if they > don't exist there yet. No addition of geodata involved in that case. > > I know that Romaine has the wish for several years now, to add the streets of > Brussels themselves to Wikidata. > > Cheers, > > Jo > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:56 AM Marc Gemis <[email protected]> wrote: >> > About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a >> > node somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that >> > node to Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis >> > data to source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not >> > using any nodes of the street itself. I do try to link back to >> > openstreetmap (one of the ways or associatedStreet relation) in the >> > reference url field. >> > >> >> IMHO, that is a derivative database. You look at OSM data, apply some >> algorithm and create new data. >> AFAIK, the project that Seppe, Joost and Jonathan have will not add >> such data, but if you want to do it, you might contact the LWG to be >> sure it's OK. I doubt it is. >> >> regards >> >> m. > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >
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