He's even going to revert my work: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41776742 I've forwarded this to the DWG, it's getting rediculous.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Adam Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > That's a pretty harsh thing to deal with. Imports are difficult and the > time needed to get them right is not a small investment. To have someone > review this work is a valuable service, but I don't think just blanket > reverting due to the violation of one rule is the solution, especially in > context of the lack of data in some of those areas. The CANVEC stuff will > do until surveys or satellite data catches up with those areas. > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM, John Marshall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Andrew, I hear you! I have been trying to add data around unmapped >> Northern Communities around James Bay and Nunavut. But after someone revert >> some of my work I'm stopping:( >> >> John >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Andrew <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 23:47 -0400, Gordon Dewis wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 11:12 PM, Antoine Beaupré <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-08-25 10:13:25, Gordon Dewis wrote: >>> >>> Alan is right. I've brought in a few tiles worth of forests from Canvec >>> in >>> the area you're talking about, but they were non-trivial to deal with >>> compared to most other features. I kept running into limits in the tools >>> I >>> was using at the time and I haven't returned to them since. >>> >>> >>> Yeah, that's what I figured.... I hope my comment didn't come across as >>> criticizing the work that was done importing that data into OSM - I know >>> how challenging and frustrating that work can be. >>> >>> But I must admit it seems a little rough to have those patches up >>> there. I don't mind the "seams" between the CANVEC imported blocks, >>> which don't seem to show up on the main map anymore anyways. But >>> the *missing* blocks are really problematic and confusing. And they show >>> up not only all the way up north and in weird places, but in critical >>> areas. for example, here's a blank spot right north of Canada's capital: >>> >>> http://osm.org/go/cIhYCSU-?m= >>> >>> It seems a whole area was just not imported up there... oops! This shows >>> up here and there in seemingly random places. >>> >>> >>> Whoever was working on it was probably struggling with the tiles and >>> subtitles in Canvec and threw in the towel. I was working on the forests >>> around Golden Lake, for example, and ran into problems and limitations with >>> the tools I was using at the time. I would love to import more, but it’s a >>> daunting task. >>> >>> Another problem I noticed is when trying to merge “new” forests with >>> existing forests was the existing forests would disappear because the >>> topology changed, similar to problems you can see with lakes and islands. >>> That alone was enough to make me back off and undo the inadvertent damage. >>> >>> I wonder if it wouldn't be better to remove parts of the CANVEC import >>> until we can figure out how to better import them in the future, if, of >>> course, we have a documented way of restoring the state of affairs we >>> have now... As was mentionned elsewhere, it seems to me that the data >>> that is there now somewhat makes it more difficult to go forward and >>> hides more important data (like park boundaries). >>> >>> >>> Unless the parts of Canvec are going to be replaced with more >>> comprehensive coverage, I think that removing the existing forests would >>> not be a Good Thing. >>> >>> I believe it would be more important to map out park boundaries than >>> actual forest limits which, quite unfortunately, change in pretty >>> dramatic ways in Québec, due to massive logging that has been happening >>> for decades. >>> >>> >>> Park boundaries are mostly in already, aren’t they? They are fairly easy >>> features to import compared to forests. >>> >>> >>> Tell you what, I do what I can to import the data, and fill in the gaps. >>> >>> I stopped importing data about a year ago, my skin just wasn't thick >>> enough. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-ca mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > -- 外に遊びに行こう！
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