Hi Clifford,

(It was good to meet you at SOTM US last year).

Thanks for your comments... The situation with addr:city appears to me to be more complex than the situation with addr:province/addr:country, along the lines of what you are mentioning. My personal home mailing address cannot be resolved in OSM because the mailing address does not match any of the boundaries.  (OSM boundaries are correct, but the official post address cannot be resolved from the boundaries). So I have a feeling that addr:city is going to be required, at least in some cases.

Do you have a view on addr:province/addr:state or addr:country?  US/Canada probably have more similarities than differences, so your input is very welcome.

On 2018-02-19 10:36 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:
Just one concern - Removing of addr:city. I encourage people to include addr:city since it's part of their mailing address and could easily be outside of the city limits. While addr:city isn't needed inside of city boundaries since it can be obtained from their spatial location, does make it much easier to full addresses from OSM. I would recommend not removing addr:city.

My perspective is from the states where I'm familiar with how the US Postal service operates. If this isn't true in Canada - please ignore.


On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:21 AM, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote:

    I want to bump up this thread to see what other opinions are out
    there.  If you are supportive to remove the addr:province and
    addr:country tags in Canada, please speak up.  I don't like
    making big changes with only 1 comment.  (If you like, feel free
    to reply privately to me avoid bombarding the list with "me too"
    and I will summarize the replies on the list).  Prior to
    starting this discussion, I too have been removing these tags
    when I come across them (a few places in London, ON had

    Alternately my proposal would be to:

      * change addr:state => addr:province
      * add ~2.7 million missing  addr:province / addr:country where
        they don't exist
      * an then then to standardize what we are putting into those
        fields.  eg for addr:province in Ontario: ON, on, Ontario,
        ONTARIO, Ont, ont, or the several other variations that
        exist today.  ("ON" is most popular, followed by "Ontario")

    If you don't like either of the above, I would really like to
    hear why having the tags in some places but not others is a good
    thing.  As you may have noticed based on my posts over the last
    few weeks that I like to have things (more) consistent, unless
    there is a (good) reason not to be consistent.

    On 2018-02-16 12:52 PM, Alan Richards wrote:
    I typically remove these tags when I come across them, as yes,
    I've heard the same argument that they're redundant.

    I like all this cleanup you've been doing with phone numbers,
    addresses, etc. Kudos!

    On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Matthew Darwin
    <matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote:

        Hi all,

        During the discussion of cleaning up municipality names in
        Canada, it was suggested that the addr:city could be
        removed entirely if the appropriate boundaries are
        defined.   I would hazard to guess (and will endeavour to
        investigate) that the addr:city and the boundaries do not
        always align in Canada (there are ~11300 administrative
        boundaries of some type and there are ~7000 unique
        addr:city tags)... so this will be a much more long term

        However, the provincial/territorial boundaries are defined,
        so removing the addr:country, addr:provice and addr:state
        tags might be a more reasonable at this time. 
        (addr:country is used ~94% less than addr:street)

        Tags, by number of occurrences:

         167902 addr:country

          33252 addr:state

         179741 addr:province

        2950115 addr:city

        2942159 addr:street

        2934341 addr:housenumber

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