The Canadian Federal Government Open Data License is one of the few that
has been formally approved by the legal working group. I would have
preferred to see it released through the Treasury Board's Open Data
portal that way there is no question about the license but I accept
Alessandro's statement it is released under that license.
In the same way that we do not import everything that CANVEC offers
through the Treasury Board Open Data portal I think we need to examine
and treat this data in the same way. James has already made a comment
on part of it.
There is a history of importing data from the TB Open Portal in small
quantities on an Ad Hoc basis which makes drawing a line to say none of
this data should be used unless there is an import plan that has been
approved etc.
The pilot was different. There we did a formal import plan for Ottawa
and the decision was taken by local Ottawa mappers to proceed and they
did the import.
Importing everything that Stats Canada could find across Canada is a
little different. Who are the local mappers who make the decision to go
ahead or not? Remember that parts of Canada are closer to Europe than
the west coast.
Should it be done using a grid?
Who should do it? and that is an interesting question given that mapper
resources are not unlimited and doing an import is more complex than
running a maperthon with new mappers.
Cheerio John
Дмитрий Киселев wrote on 2018-11-01 3:47 PM:
Hi John,
Looks like the wiki needs amending to only list open data with the
correct license either separately or a note added to each entry.
what's the status of OGL-CA is it compatible or not,
or compatible with some restrictions or only for some datasets?
StatsCan just published building footprints dataset under OGL-CA it's
of course quite controversial
do we want to import some parts of that dataset or not, but looks like
there is no concerns about
license compatibility (at least on mailing list),
Is that true or not, or we don't have legal answer which we can rely on?
вс, 21 окт. 2018 г. в 11:52, John Whelan <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Looks like the wiki needs amending to only list open data with the
correct license either separately or a note added to each entry.
I have noticed before there is no authority listed on the wiki.
Cheerio John
Дмитрий Киселев wrote on 2018-10-21 10:28 AM:
About source, I suppose it's
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada#Open_Data [12]
вс, 21 окт. 2018 г. в 10:20, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hi,
there's a mapper in Canada - Darthmouthmapper - who seems to:
1. import data from a source he calls "Nova Scotia Open Data"
- I am not
aware of any imports discussion, and the source specification
is not
precise enough to determine the legal status of that. Judging
from past
changeset comments, whatever imports procedure is used must
have a
number of flaws.
2. import administrative boundaries
2a. as a mesh of closed ways (where most people would prefer
relations),
2b. with, among other things, the tags "_Shape_Area_=yes",
"addrcountry=Canada" (no colon!), "addr:postcode" (which is not
generally used for objects that do not represent an address), and
"type=land_area" (which is not generally used on closed ways).
2c. The combination of a level-8 admin boundary and
place=village is
also unusual (eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/616463020)
but I
cannot judge if this is normal in Canada. This is also used in
residential areas https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636390857
- is this
area really a "village"?
3. use a ton of is_in tags which are highly unusual nowadays
4. occasionally change existing relations (not ways) from
type=boundary
to type=land_area
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8417484/history)
5. add addr:postcode and addr:province to place=village nodes
6. revert corrections applied to this by other users,
claiming that "The
video and instructions state these can be part of the ways"
A number of people have complained in the past
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=698649&commented
but many of the issues seem to be present still.
Before I ask him to fix this -- are any of the behaviours /
mapping
techniques outlined above somehow usual in Canada?
Bye
Frederik
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