if anyone needs a TM or micro data service, I'm available for this On Fri., Nov. 2, 2018, 7:32 p.m. John Whelan <[email protected] wrote:
> This approach seems very sensible however Pierre has raised the issue of > poorly mapped buildings and we are aware that some were mapped in a > mapathon environment so whilst Ottawa used a "leave existing buildings > alone" approach is this an area where some judgement should be used? and > yes I am aware that the official party line is to correct what is there to > retain the history which means taking the "Ottawa" approach is less > controversial but would probably give us more inaccuracies on the map. > > An alternative might be to import all the buildings with a different tag > than building=yes then leave it to mappers to inspect each before turning > the switch or change the tags to building=yes. Those that overlap poorly > mapped buildings could be left to some sort of clean up phase. > > Thanks John > > Matthew Darwin wrote on 2018-11-02 7:07 PM: > > I think we should identify who would like to be involved in import for > each municipality. (on a wiki page). On the page, identify roles, like: > > - coordinator > - import data preparation > - QA > - import execution > - data enrichment (commercial, residential, etc... tagging) > - etc.. > > Then we can see where we have gaps and how to fill them. Perhaps some > municipalities have local mappers who will be happy to do the tagging of > building type (and can do some validation if the buildings look right), but > no technical capability to execute the actual import. And maybe some folks > who did imports before will help areas where we have no technical expertise. > > > On 2018-11-02 6:58 p.m., John Whelan wrote: > > > > So to paraphrase your reply. A centralised import plan in the wiki which > says the data is approved for import and should be tackled in chunks of > some sort of region since we are a decentralized organization. Which I > think is similar to the way Task Manager works. The project is broken into > tiles and each tile is tackled completed separately. The 'Tiles' would of > course be somewhat larger in area and there is a technical limitation as to > how big an area can be downloaded from the OSM server. > > The local mappers certainly have a role to play and because the goal is > not only to import the buildings but to enrich the tags with commercial etc > so the tag enrichment would be a task that a mapathon could tackle. I > personally don't think a new mapper using iD in a mapathon has a role to > play in importing the building outlines into OSM. > > The plan should include the technical steps to import the data. > > Thanks > > Cheerio John > > Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-02 6:35 PM: > > Pour le Québec, je retrouve les données de plusieurs municipalités > Montréal, Longueuil, Repentigny, Shawinigan, Québec et Rimouski. > > Première observation rapide, aussi, elles sont de bonne qualité et > proviennent je suppose des cadastres des municipalités. En milieu urbain, > cela facilite beaucoup l'identification des immeubles juxtaposés. > > Je vois ailleurs, aux États-Unis notamment avec les données de Microsoft, > que les projets sont par région ou municipalité. > > Je pense qu'il faut éviter un projet trop centralisé tant pour assurer un > meilleur contrôle du déroulement dans chaque municipalité, région que pour > permettre aux communautés des provinces et communautés locales de > s'impliquer. > > La rédaction d' une page wiki pour l'ensemble du Canada peut répondre aux > exigences du groupe Import de OSM. Mais l'organisation doit être > décentralisée. > > Le rôle de cette liste doit être un forum pour supporter les communautés > des provinces et communautés locales. C'est une occasion de dynamiser ces > communautés avec un projet très intéressant. De là, ils auront le goût de > compléter la carte pour y décrire les infrastructures locales. > > Si trop de tâches sont initiées en parallèle sur un gestionnaire de > tâches, il sera très difficile de coordonner, assurer le suivi, une > progression coordonnée. Il faut éviter que des mapathons ou organisations > externes s'invitent pour collaborer à de telles tâches avec les milliers et > milliers de personnes qui viennent jardiner quelques heures sans > organisation / formation réelle et laissent ensuite le tout sans dessus, > dessous. > > > -- > Sent from Postbox > <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing > [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing > [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > -- > Sent from Postbox > <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach> > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >
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