I've started the process off by an introductory post to the import mailing list and we are working on a wiki page which will be based on the Stat Canada City of Ottawa import wiki page.
Cheerio John On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, 7:34 pm James <[email protected] wrote: > if anyone needs a TM or micro data service, I'm available for this > > On Fri., Nov. 2, 2018, 7:32 p.m. John Whelan <[email protected] wrote: > >> This approach seems very sensible however Pierre has raised the issue of >> poorly mapped buildings and we are aware that some were mapped in a >> mapathon environment so whilst Ottawa used a "leave existing buildings >> alone" approach is this an area where some judgement should be used? and >> yes I am aware that the official party line is to correct what is there to >> retain the history which means taking the "Ottawa" approach is less >> controversial but would probably give us more inaccuracies on the map. >> >> An alternative might be to import all the buildings with a different tag >> than building=yes then leave it to mappers to inspect each before turning >> the switch or change the tags to building=yes. Those that overlap poorly >> mapped buildings could be left to some sort of clean up phase. >> >> Thanks John >> >> Matthew Darwin wrote on 2018-11-02 7:07 PM: >> >> I think we should identify who would like to be involved in import for >> each municipality. (on a wiki page). On the page, identify roles, like: >> >> - coordinator >> - import data preparation >> - QA >> - import execution >> - data enrichment (commercial, residential, etc... tagging) >> - etc.. >> >> Then we can see where we have gaps and how to fill them. Perhaps some >> municipalities have local mappers who will be happy to do the tagging of >> building type (and can do some validation if the buildings look right), but >> no technical capability to execute the actual import. And maybe some folks >> who did imports before will help areas where we have no technical expertise. >> >> >> On 2018-11-02 6:58 p.m., John Whelan wrote: >> >> >> >> So to paraphrase your reply. A centralised import plan in the wiki which >> says the data is approved for import and should be tackled in chunks of >> some sort of region since we are a decentralized organization. Which I >> think is similar to the way Task Manager works. The project is broken into >> tiles and each tile is tackled completed separately. The 'Tiles' would of >> course be somewhat larger in area and there is a technical limitation as to >> how big an area can be downloaded from the OSM server. >> >> The local mappers certainly have a role to play and because the goal is >> not only to import the buildings but to enrich the tags with commercial etc >> so the tag enrichment would be a task that a mapathon could tackle. I >> personally don't think a new mapper using iD in a mapathon has a role to >> play in importing the building outlines into OSM. >> >> The plan should include the technical steps to import the data. >> >> Thanks >> >> Cheerio John >> >> Pierre Béland wrote on 2018-11-02 6:35 PM: >> >> Pour le Québec, je retrouve les données de plusieurs municipalités >> Montréal, Longueuil, Repentigny, Shawinigan, Québec et Rimouski. >> >> Première observation rapide, aussi, elles sont de bonne qualité et >> proviennent je suppose des cadastres des municipalités. En milieu urbain, >> cela facilite beaucoup l'identification des immeubles juxtaposés. >> >> Je vois ailleurs, aux États-Unis notamment avec les données de Microsoft, >> que les projets sont par région ou municipalité. >> >> Je pense qu'il faut éviter un projet trop centralisé tant pour assurer un >> meilleur contrôle du déroulement dans chaque municipalité, région que pour >> permettre aux communautés des provinces et communautés locales de >> s'impliquer. >> >> La rédaction d' une page wiki pour l'ensemble du Canada peut répondre aux >> exigences du groupe Import de OSM. Mais l'organisation doit être >> décentralisée. >> >> Le rôle de cette liste doit être un forum pour supporter les communautés >> des provinces et communautés locales. C'est une occasion de dynamiser ces >> communautés avec un projet très intéressant. De là, ils auront le goût de >> compléter la carte pour y décrire les infrastructures locales. >> >> Si trop de tâches sont initiées en parallèle sur un gestionnaire de >> tâches, il sera très difficile de coordonner, assurer le suivi, une >> progression coordonnée. Il faut éviter que des mapathons ou organisations >> externes s'invitent pour collaborer à de telles tâches avec les milliers et >> milliers de personnes qui viennent jardiner quelques heures sans >> organisation / formation réelle et laissent ensuite le tout sans dessus, >> dessous. >> >> >> -- >> Sent from Postbox >> <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> >> -- >> Sent from Postbox >> <https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=siglink&utm_campaign=reach> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >
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