On 10 Nov 2009, at 19:05, Tom Chance wrote:
2009/11/10 Richard Mann <[email protected]>
The roundel (the simple red ring and blue bar version) is more than
70 years old, if that makes any difference. The BR logo is somewhat
newer, however.
Putting it on a map feels to me to be akin to news reporting, so it
might constitute fair use.
First, there's no such thing as fair use in the UK, we have "fair
dealing" which is quite different to "fair use" provisions in other
countries. Second, never ever put OSM in a position where it is open
to serious legal attack based on your or my untrained feeling :)
We get permission from TfL, or we seek costly legal advice.
I agree that the cautious approach would be to ask. I was wondering if
we could use the argument that it is in the background (as is a photo
of a cafe with a coca-cola sign in the window) or that we are creating
a 'collective' work of more than one 'creative' element.
The reality is that the law doesn't provide certainty in these sorts
of things.
On a cartography point, would we specify a rule for the operator TfL
so that every other metro system doesn't get the same logo? Would
this open the Mapnik stylesheet up to thousands of extra lines to
accommodate every local symbol?
Yup! I have just checked Google Maps in the England, Scotland, France
and Germany and yes, the metro has a different symbol in London,
Glasgow, Paris and Berlin!
I suggest we need to include a link to the appropriate logo within the
POI in OSM so that Mapnik just references the symbol from the POI.
Regards,
Peter
Best wishes,
Tom
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