Graham Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am quite surprised there are many 'personal' contributors who would want
> to refuse to have their data re-licensed - from my personal way of looking
> at it the proposed new licence is so similar to the existing cc-by-sa that
> it will make negligible difference.

The ODbL license is pretty similar (though some people may have strong
feelings about SA no longer applying to 'produced works'). I would be
hopeful that many large-scale data sources (OS included) could be
persuaded to allow their data to be used under ODbL

However, the proposed contributor terms change things significantly,
in two ways:

First you need to give full rights to your contributions to OSMF, who
could then (subject to community approval) re-license them without SA
or By requirements. If you are a strong believer in either of these,
you may not want allow this possibility with your work. Equally if you
are a company with valuable data, it's entirely reasonable that you
will only provide it if there are SA and/or By provisions.

Secondly, the terms would severely restrict the data sources we could
make use of. In particular they would mean that despite the SA clause
in ODbL, users of OSM data can prevent OSM from re-importing any added
data by simply refusing to sign the contributor terms. This makes the
SA provision in ODbL pretty much worthless as far as the main OSM
database is concerned. Others can benefit from our work, but we could
be blocked from using others' improvements.

In this debate, I think it's important to distinguish between whether
contributors are happy to re-license their contributions, and the
separate issue of whether the license should then be changed, given
(in particular) the resulting loss of data.

Personally, I'd be happy to re-licensed my contributions under ODbL,
but I'm not sure whether I am happy with the proposed contributor
terms. (I kind of like the SA provisions.) I've yet to come to a
conclusion on whether the license should be changed -- I guess that
rather depends on the actual data loss we'll be faced with. I feel
rather more more strongly that OSM should definitely not adopt the
proposed contributor terms, for the reasons given above.

Despite this I voted "For ODbL" on the doodle poll, since it
specifically asked about re-licensing under ODbL. (I also hadn't
appreciated the implications of the contributor terms at that point.)
If OSMF only offers a straight choice between ODbL + the current
contributor terms, or not re-licensing at all, I'd be in rather a
quandary.

-- 
Robert Whittaker

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