On 10/01/2012 13:43, Peter Miller wrote:


On 10 January 2012 12:07, David Earl <da...@frankieandshadow.com <mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com>> wrote:

    On 10/01/2012 11:44, Peter Miller wrote:

        Is there no way in this case to formally 'claim' the IPR for this
        features on the basis that we have moved them and edited all the
        surrounding features?


    Exactly the question I raised on talk on Monday. I don't think you
    even need to have moved anything, merely to have checked against a
    valid source other than the non-accepting contributor (e.g. Bing
    for location, local knowledge or OSSV etc for names) in order to
    claim the IPR. I really don't see what mechanically then
    reproducing what is already there actually adds to the process
    other than wasted time.


Thank you. This is a matter of judgement by the Licensing Working Group and they should come back with a clear view on it.

Our formal minuted doctrine, Item 7 https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1pPOFHo_o5inG9Ereh3Zn5ItmctZGRFbcmnKwtbyNkdM , is that it is for the community to pass judgement on whether the criteria are acceptable rather than LWG and that criteria are recorded on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/What_is_clean%3F so that it is publicly transparent and in one centralised resource. We monitor and will scream if we think the there is any veering away from good faith and reasonable effort to check either that the IPR of non-continuing mappers has been completely removed or that it has been completely duplicated by continuing mappers.

Anything like this also needs to be practical enough for a quantitative rule to be easily coded into visualisation tools and into final rebuild scripts by our technical volunteers.

+1 to Richard's suggestion odbl=clean . Your userid is recorded with the tag addition.

Note also that some anonymous contributors did actually provide email addresses, got our bulk emailings and have said yes to the new terms.

Mike
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