On 05/06/15 18:44, SK53 wrote: > All of those parts of the former parts of Middlesex within Greater > London and outside postal London retained Middlesex as part of the > address long after 1965, see wikipedia > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom>. > These days it is not clear that the addresses are 'official' in any > sense. The Royal Mail is a private firm in a deregulated market, albeit > one with a near monopoly position, and ownership of post codes. Street > names & house numbers are official because these are allocated by local > government.
The county of Middlesex ceased to exist in 1965. Royal Mail retained 'former postal counties' because of the cost of changing them, but the area they call 'Middlesex' expanded to included surrounding areas and existed as a name up until 1996, It is quite clear these days what the property designation is as per the NLPG, but as demonstrated with the Hayes, Bromley example, while the postal address IS now Bromley, many locals continue to add 'Kent'. It is perhaps because of the old 'Middlesex' connection that the current miss-identification of many of those towns is 'Slough' in the Facebook places list has come about. Since it is a council responsibility to create new street names, the post office simply add postcodes to an existing entity and therefore the borough or county designation is well defined? No new roads will be created as 'Middlesex'. I lived in Hewens Road, Hillingdon, Middlesex until the mid 90's ... Royal Mail now call it Hewens Road, Uxbridge, but it is some distance from Uxbridge. Hayes, Middlesex is now simply 'Hayes' according to Royal Mail and Hayes, Kent is now simply 'Bromley' so it is perhaps understandable that locals do not take much notice of the PAF file? Facebook do not allow me to tag my home address at that time and putting 'Uxbridge' is simply wrong, so it is nice that OSM almost gets it right ... Hewens Road, Hayes, London Borough of Hillingdon, London, Greater London ... Now if I can just get the Hayes corrected to Hillingdon! The Hillingdon tag on OSM is much closer to Hewens Road than Hayes is ... now that I'm actually looking, http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2325649033 should be a 'town'? Is the 'suburb designation outranking Hillingdon's town tag? Hayes, Bromley does not seem to exist in OSM? Derick has Hayes Station, but OSM put's it in West Wickham, London Borough of Bromley, London, Greater London. While GeoNames has an entry for Hayes, Bromley, OSM it seems does not? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

