On 05/06/15 20:40, Lester Caine wrote:
On 05/06/15 18:44, SK53 wrote:
All of those parts of the former parts of Middlesex within Greater
London and outside postal London retained Middlesex as part of the
address long after 1965, see wikipedia
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_counties_of_the_United_Kingdom>.
These days it is not clear that the addresses are 'official' in any
sense. The Royal Mail is a private firm in a deregulated market, albeit
one with a near monopoly position, and ownership of post codes. Street
names & house numbers are official because these are allocated by local
government.
The county of Middlesex ceased to exist in 1965. Royal Mail retained
'former postal counties' because of the cost of changing them, but the
area they call 'Middlesex' expanded to included surrounding areas and
existed as a name up until 1996, It is quite clear these days what the
property designation is as per the NLPG, but as demonstrated with the
Hayes, Bromley example, while the postal address IS now Bromley, many
locals continue to add 'Kent'. It is perhaps because of the old
'Middlesex' connection that the current miss-identification of many of
those towns is 'Slough' in the Facebook places list has come about.
Since it is a council responsibility to create new street names, the
post office simply add postcodes to an existing entity and therefore the
borough or county designation is well defined? No new roads will be
created as 'Middlesex'.
I lived in Hewens Road, Hillingdon, Middlesex until the mid 90's ...
Royal Mail now call it Hewens Road, Uxbridge, but it is some distance
from Uxbridge. Hayes, Middlesex is now simply 'Hayes' according to Royal
Mail and Hayes, Kent is now simply 'Bromley' so it is perhaps
understandable that locals do not take much notice of the PAF file?
Facebook do not allow me to tag my home address at that time and putting
'Uxbridge' is simply wrong, so it is nice that OSM almost gets it right
... Hewens Road, Hayes, London Borough of Hillingdon, London, Greater
London ... Now if I can just get the Hayes corrected to Hillingdon! The
Hillingdon tag on OSM is much closer to Hewens Road than Hayes is ...
now that I'm actually looking,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2325649033 should be a 'town'? Is the
'suburb designation outranking Hillingdon's town tag?
Hayes, Bromley does not seem to exist in OSM? Derick has Hayes Station,
but OSM put's it in West Wickham, London Borough of Bromley, London,
Greater London. While GeoNames has an entry for Hayes, Bromley, OSM it
seems does not?
I live 'next door' to Hayes (Kent/Bromley) in West Wickham, so will add
it, as it is similar to West Wickham with a train station and High
Street. For the record National Rail has trains that go to Hayes (Kent)
and Bromley Council planning system records addresses there as 'Station
Buildings, Station Approach, Hayes, Bromley BR2 7EN'
Regards,
Mick Orridge
www.gismosoftware.co.uk
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