Disagree. We all add data which abides by certain rules & criteria. We vet it ourselves as we're adding it. If a contributor fails to do that, they should be expected to justify the reasons. This hasn't occurred. That they still exist as historical documents is not a viable argument.

As Dave W. pointed out, it's the thin end of the wedge.

DaveF

On 26/08/2018 19:45, Adam Snape wrote:
Hi,

I don't think it's for those who have mapped something in OSM to demonstrate majority support for its retention. I think it is for those seeking to have others' contributions removed to demonstrate a clear consensus in favour of deletion.

Kind regards,

Adam

On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 16:38 Andrew Black, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Before we can decide whether to delete or document it we need to
    decide whether it is wanted.
    Might a Loomio vote be a way forwards.



    On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 15:42, Colin Smale <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I wanted to talk about the process, not the outcome. It is
        obvious there is not an overwhelming consensus one way or the
        other, and as usual the debate just fizzles out with no
        conclusion. If we do nothing, the data stays in the database
        because nobody has the balls to delete it, but it can't be
        documented for fear of legitimising it.

        Is this the best we can do?



        On 26 August 2018 16:27:58 CEST, Andrew Black
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I agree with Dave F " It's still historic data, irrelevant
            to OSM. They are neither "current or real". That they will
            "never change" is irrelevant. They add no quality to the
            database.They should be removed."





            On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 12:58, Colin Smale
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I agree, but where do we actually go from here? We
                have some options...

                1) remove them all

                2) leave them in the database and quietly ignore them

                3) leave them in the database and document them, even
                though they are controversial, to say the least

                Option 2 is least desirable IMHO, as we prefer things
                that are in OSM to be documented in some way, e.g. in
                the wiki

                Given the "live and let live" philosophy that OSM
                otherwise espouses, maybe we can go for option 3?

                Or we get some kind of consensus that they are to be
                removed, but then I think it should be the
                responsibility of the DWG to make that determination,
                communicate the decision, and do the reverts.

                On 2018-08-26 13:27, Dave F wrote:

                No, it's hasn't been acquiesced. It's still historic
                data, irrelevant to OSM. They are neither "current or
                real". That they will "never change" is irrelevant.
                They add no quality to the database.They should be
                removed.

                DaveF

                On 26/08/2018 11:46, Colin Smale wrote:

                It has gone all quiet here, and in the mean time
                smb001 has been making steady progress across
                England. I take it that means acquiescence to these
                historic county boundaries being in OSM.

                I guess we should get smb001 to write up the tagging
                in the wiki.

                Or is there a discussion going on elsewhere that I
                am not aware of?



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