The Lake District National Park instructions to footpath surveyors recommends:

"Where there are two items of furniture for the same crossing (for example, a gate and a stile alongside each other), then it is the one highest up the hierarchy .. or the one definitely on the definitive line, that is the most important."

The gate is higher in their hierarchy than the stile, and thus would normally be considered to be the one on the PROW where there is doubt about the definitive line.

Roger

On 22/04/2019 13:43, Martin Wynne wrote:
Often in my travels I come across something like this:

 http://85a.uk/stile_gate2_1280x720.jpg

 http://85a.uk/stile_gate_1280x720.jpg

Should this be mapped as a stile or a gate? Or both side by side?

If the latter, which node should the way be connected to?

It's a public right of way on foot, and walkers need to know that they must climb a stile if the gate is locked. But if you "map what you see on the ground" (which is the supposed golden rule), it is simply a track passing through a gate.

If I split the way in two, and have a short section of footpath passing over a stile *and* a track passing through a gate, it looks daft on the map, as if there is a Clapham Junction in the middle of a grassy field.

And if I do that, is it essential to split out the short bit of the track through the gate, from which the public right-of-way designation (and ref number) is removed?

thanks,

Martin.

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