Thanks Silent Spike. Keep up the good work. Of course, the very process of people tagging a shop type with the value that they think is correct, unprompted by the NSI, is/was the process of gaining consensus. I fear slightly that in our desire to use the 'right' value we lose that input....Not that i'm seeing loads of contentious values coming through from the NSI. I might just be being academic about it. That's why i'm keen that people add to the UK wiki page with shopfront photos and details, and question it on Talk-GB so that any additions to the NSI are well-informed.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:40 PM Silent Spike <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jez Nicholson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I don't know (yet) how iD generates its list of shop types. This may be >> hard-coded and/or pre-generated from the NSI. >> > > I can shed some light on this. The "type" field (drop down list) on the > generic "shop" preset is generated from taginfo. However, there are also > specific shop presets (e.g. "Hardware Store") which are manually added in > iD's data files. Then even more specifically there are the brand specific > presets which are generated from the name suggestion index. > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:31 PM Stuart Reynolds < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> And this is the problem. One of the shop=yes entries in Southend on sea >> is The Range. I wasn’t sure how to tag it (I was using iD for speed, and >> it’s list of defined shop tags is fairly minimal) so I tried an overpass >> query on Name=The Range. >> >> I have found, variously (aside from those without a shop tag at all) >> “houseware”, “household”, “doityourself”, “department_store”. >> > > This is a common issue I run into when adding UK brands to the name > suggestion index, but it also highlights the power of having a > `brand:wikidata` tag. If all locations are identified by brand, then in > future if there is a tagging development or consensus change for that > brand, all of the locations can be easily converted because they're > explicitly marked. Along those lines, if there is ever discussion which > establishes some UK brand tagging consensus on the mailing list here I will > more than likely see it and adopt it into the index. > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:43 PM Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Any mappers with a few minutes to spare might like to have a look at >> their local area, and see if there are any shop=yes objects they could >> re-tag with a more specific value. Some resources to help: > > > Perhaps a https://maproulette.org challenge would be a good way to track > the progress of this? > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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