I support and appreciate the initiative and motivation for reducing single
use plastic water bottles, but I'm not convinced mapping this data is such
a priority for a quarterly project right now.

Unsure if it differs across the UK, but I know here in Scotland I could
pretty quickly find somewhere willing to refill my water bottle in any
populated area (which makes this refill tagging most useful in more remote
locations or for analysis/statistical purposes).

Surely there's something more relevant we could prioritise with the
currently ongoing epidemic in mind.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:07 PM European Water Project <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> 1) I carry a reusable water bottle with me all the time and I do fill up
> when I am traveling.
>
> 2) 1 million water bottles are manufactured every minute in the world and
> one third of plastic waste on beaches is water bottles . I added subtitles
> to this French Brut video (with their permission). It gives an overview of
> the  water bottles plastic issue.
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Mp6Gpq32xcxQ5OFfbI_gGELRAY4k6uV-
>
> 3) Your point about supermarket packaging is not so off topic. But, I
> think it is important not to create opposition between two important
> issues. Plastic packaging needs to be addressed as well.
>
> Combatting single-use plastic for water bottles has the advantage that
> there is an readily available cheaper alternative - high quality TAP WATER
> which everyone in Europe has access to (with very few exceptions).  I hope
> people who voluntarily adopt reusable water bottles will also become more
> ecological conscious citizens and pressure supermarkets directly and
> indirectly to reduce plastic packaging.
>
> 4) Refill UK has over 25,000 establishments and there are quite a few
> parallel networks which are very similar.
>
> I agree 100% about the lack of transparency of Refill data.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 at 18:31, Philip Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 18:59 +0100, European Water Project wrote:
>>
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> I respect your opinion about the fit for the Quarterly Project. I don't
>> know enough about the project criteria to have an opinion - even if I am
>> passionate on the subject.
>>
>>
>> I do understand you passion on the subject, although it does seem to me
>> to be such a tiny problem in terms of plastic waste.
>>
>> How often do you take water when you leave home and need to refill it?
>>
>> I know this is going off-topic but a far bigger problem is the recent
>> trend for supermarkets to go back to the 70s and sell fruit and vegetables
>> in plastic packaging again, rather than weigh it at the checkout.
>>
>> This unnecessary food packaging is by far the bulk of the contents of my
>> recycling box.
>>
>>
>> With respect to the locations, there are about 25,000 in the UK and
>> Northern Ireland.
>>
>>
>> I think their lack of transparency is a big problem, licensing as
>> opendata is one issue however the website doesn't even provide information
>> in for personal use.
>>
>> What information they do provide suggests there are none in either
>> Telford or Shrewsbury, or my small North Shropshire town.
>>
>> However I have since found stickers at three on cafes in my small town,
>> there are only five in total, so quite a good uptake.
>>
>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>
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