On 18/07/2020 17:06, Adam Snape wrote:
On the subject of overlapping relations. I've recently noticed that
the NCN 62 relation has been named Transpennine trail which is true
for much, but not all of the route. The TPT ends at Southport, yet NCN
62 continues further North. At the eastern end of the TPT goes far
beyond the end of NCN 62 which ends at Selby. They need to be two
separate relations.
The Trans-Pennine Trail is a bit confusing, both on the ground and in
OSM. A quick query in OSM south of Selby turns up this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12763
"ref=62; name=Trans Pennine Trail"
and this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1761919#map=10/53.7874/-0.6265&layers=H
"ref=TPT; name=Trans Pennine Trail"
and also this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10521621#map=10/53.6371/-1.2158&layers=H
"name=Trans Pennine Trail (Wombwell to Selby)"
It essentially goes all over the place, and doesn't correspond to one
particular NCN (see
https://www.transpenninetrail.org.uk/?doing_wp_cron=1595095458.7358970642089843750000
). The Chesterfield end has two braids and partially corresponds to
what is or was NCN 67.
The superroute I believe is https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4139041
If NCN 62 isn't properly called the Transpennine Trail I'd remove that
name from it and explain in a note on the relation why. My recollection
is that NCN62 and TPT signage is separate, but it's a while since I've
seen any so I may be wrong.
The best approach for tidying would I think be to:
* Find anything not in the superroute and figure out what the status
actually is.
* Ensure that routes in the superroute are split where tags change
(e.g. bits with NCN 62 signage and bits without)
It'd be a lot of work for relatively little reward though - presumably
that's why no-one's stepped up to tidy things up yet.
Best Regards,
Andy
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