>From my point of view, a sign that says "Private Road Strictly No Parking"
implies that people are allowed to use it as a through route, just not to
park there.  For similar roads near me, I might tag them as
access=permissive or maybe no access tags so the way inherits the default
access from
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#United_Kingdom
.  I often tend to think of private roads with council streetlights as
allowing public access (in the absence of signs forbidding me from using
the road).

Jon

On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 at 18:05, Ed Loach <[email protected]> wrote:

> For your cul-de-sac case I'm not sure it matters too much (I'd
> probably go with access=destination), but there are roads which are
> unadopted which are heavily used through routes, like Brooklands in
> Jaywick or Audley Way in Frinton. I've not put access restrictions
> on these, but nor have I tagged that they are effectively "private".
> In the case of Brooklands no-one seems to quite know who is
> responsible, with the various councils generally denying liability
> but usually eventually patching the potholes when the bus drivers
> refuse to use it. The Audley Way residents have put signs out that
> say "Private Road Strictly No Parking"
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=573293247955509
>
> Ed
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Mabbett
> > Sent: 15 November 2024 17:20
> > To: OSM GB mailing list <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Talk-GB] Private (unadopted) roads
> >
> > A new development near my home is on a newly created, unadopted
> > road
> > [1]. The street signs say "Maryvale Rise / Private road" [2], but
> > there is no suggestion that access is restricted.
> >
> > Another road nearby is similar [3, 4], and is tagged
> "access=private",
> > but the wiki says that is for cases where "Public access is not
> > allowed. Access is granted with individual permission only.
> Examples:
> > A driveway with a no trespassing or keep out sign; A company
> parking
> > lot for employees only. "
> >
> > How should each be tagged? Do we tag "Unadopted" separately to
> > access?
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1332640382
> >
> > [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Maryvale_Rise_-
> > _2024-11-10_-_Andy_Mabbett_-_01.jpg
> >
> > [3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/2624
> >
> > [4] https://maps.app.goo.gl/RXfvjctMGz6EZHpJA
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >
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