I've made some changes https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/162276574
I've left a lot of loose ends. I'm not sure of the situation on Bridge Street, Bank Street should probably be pedestrian, and there's probably a lot of changes to footways and cycleways needed in the area as well as the bus stops and routes as I mentioned. A flare could be added at the junction with Princes Way/Manchester Road. Feel free to make any changes. P.S. Thanks Tim for pointing out the mess 👍 Tom On Sat, 8 Feb 2025, 10:10 Tom Crocker, <[email protected]> wrote: > I wasn't expecting to but I got time for a *quick* walk through Hall Ings. > It's still a bit of a building site and my phone died after a few photos so > it's going to need a proper survey but I should get a chance to tidy things > up a bit by lunchtime. > > I'm not sure what to do about the classification of Leeds Road at the east > end of Hall Ings so plan to leave it primary for now, but that doesn't seem > right when it leads to a junction of some minor roads. > > I'm planning to mark roads signed for bus, taxi, motorcycle and bicycle, > and authorised vehicles only as > motor_vehicle=private > psv=yes > motorcycle=yes > > I plan to change Vicar Lane and Well Street from service to unclassified > even though most cars can't drive down them, using above access tags for > that. > > I'm going to leave the bus routes alone even though they are definitely > wrong as I don't know what's right. I'm going to leave the pedestrian way > alongside Hall Ings labelled as Leeds Road even though that's clearly wrong > as a reminder to check if it should be a footway or cycleway. > > Let me know if I should do anything different for now. As I say, a fuller > mapping will be needed. > > While we're here, what are opinions on use of highway=busway for things > like bus gates. My reading of the wiki is they are something quite specific > and different but I'm not sure how they're being used elsewhere. > > Cheers, > > Tom Crocker > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2025, 11:09 Andy Townsend, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I was there 6 months ago and what was there then (before the two most >> recent sets of changes) wasn't perfect, but as the whole area was a >> building site I made relatively few changes - clearly the situation when I >> was there was only temporary. >> >> The local who tried to fix things did so as part of their 2nd changeset, >> and they deserved a better response than the comment "reverted" (from a >> USA-based mapper with a history of that sort of thing). >> >> As already noted, it needs a proper on-the-ground survey of the _current_ >> situation. Handily, due to the unique way the railways in the north of >> England are run, Bradford Forster Square (just around the corner) seems to >> be on a surprising number of east-west routes. I can also recommend the >> Jacob's Well pub https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/962761380 . As the >> wifi password suggests "try the pie" :) >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Andy >> >> >> On 2/7/25 10:26, Paul Berry wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> I'm not that far away from Bradford but neither do I have the time to >> resurvey Hall Ings, which, as you rightly point out, has been remodelled >> recently and now looks a complete mess on the map. Checking the history of >> some stretches of road that have disappeared from the Standard Layer shows >> this has been the case for a good few months now. Might be worth reaching >> out to the mappers who have recently touched those segments (I won't name >> names but you can find out from the histories). I don't know what the >> tag "mkgmap:dead-end-check" is but that's clouding (or perhaps causing) the >> issue too. >> >> On one hand, you could revert the problematic changes to make things look >> normal again, even if that's old data. On the other hand, we don't know for >> certain what the actual situation is without a ground survey and, while >> that leaves the map looking wrong, that itself is an indicator that this >> needs a survey. >> >> Regards, >> *Paul* >> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 at 15:46, Timothy Noname <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Bradford has undergone road changes for pedestrianisation recently but >>> there is one road " Hall Ings" that looks very messed up. Is it undergoing >>> construction or has someone messed it up? Is there a local mapper? >>> >>> Tim >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> >
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