Re Exclave
try Kiltiernan in County Dublin in townlands.ie

and Kinnitty as CP, both enclaves belong to eslewhere external CPs

On 17 February 2017 at 16:03, Rory McCann <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 17/02/17 16:38, Brian Tuffy wrote:
> > Just to be clear, if it is "X and Y" you should treat it as "X and
> > Y", as it says on the wiki page. If it is "X or Y" then it should
> > be treated as "X" or "Y" in OSM but It looks like Logainm treats "X
> > or Y" as "X or Y" and so two townland names have one ref tag. The
> > thing is your script will look for "Lisnakirka or Milebush" but in
> > OSM it is name=Milebush and alt_name= Lis...
> > https://www.logainm.ie/35706.aspx
>
> OK, that sounds a little more complicated. I think I'll leave it alone
> then. We can always just find townlands with an "and" and without a
> logainm:ref and manually add them. Sometimes manually adding it is
> quicker than programming complicated rules.
>
> > It confusses me why it is Lower or Northern (North is up right!! :)
> > ) but I think it might be lower in elevation possibly? I doubt it.
> > Upper Bavaria is the south because it rises to the alps.  More
> > interestingly, up might be to the south? you go up towards Rome in
> > Irish?? More More interestingly, I hear that Irish is one of those
> > languages that has an in-built sense of direction, you wouldn't say
> > move over to the left, you would say move east.... or something
> > like that. I am not sure about it. Anyway, back to the map.
>
> Usually "Upper" is upstream, and "lower" is downstream, near the mouth
> of the river. e.g. the Upper Rhine Plane is in south Germany, because
> that's near where the Rhine starts. So when you see "Upper X" that's
> usually more "upsteam" or something.
>
> > I agree with you that it should be mapped as an exclave. I have not
> > seen any like that so that's why I suggested to have two
> > townlands.
>
> I don't know if I've seen it with townlands. It's more common with
> Civil Parishes.
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