On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Cormac O Murchú <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, > > > > First of all Northern Irish EDs cannot be tagged like Southern ones. This > is > because they are no longer Administrative Units as they were abolished in > the early 920s and replaced by Wards. > > Actually, for most of Northern Ireland there were two generations of DEDs - the originals drawn up at the same time as those in the South, and a new set of DEDs drawn up in the 1920s by the Ministry of Home Affairs, purportedly because the existing DEDs were unbalanced in size, but in practice for political reasons to keep councils in Unionist control where possible.. The lists of townlands in the post 1920s DEDs would be found in the reports for the 1937 and subsequent censuses (online at the NISRA website) or the original orders/SIs (online at the Belfast Gazette website). The replacement of DEDs with wards came in 1973 with the reform of local government. There were two further generations of wards in 1984 and 1993 before the latest set after the most recent redrawing of local government boundaries and reduction in councils and councillors. The second generation of DEDs were still being used in the mid-80s to define Less Favoured Areas for agricultural purposes: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:31975L0276 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:31984L0169&from=EN Paddy Matthews. > > > From what I can see no wards in NI (these are still Admin Boundaries ) are > tagged at present. This is a separate issue but there is no point tagging > EDs without tagging wards as well. Wards will have to be injected into OSM > with admin_level=9 given their legal status. > > > > In the strict sense they were never known as Electoral Divisions as that > nomenclature dates from the 1990s in the RoI only. They were DED’s at > abolition time. There are no name:ga names either, all the names must be > English only. Furthermore EDs were known as Poor Law Electoral Divisions ( > 1850 – 1898) for longer than they were known as District Electoral > Divisions > ( 1899-c. 1923) although census data was produced on an ED as well as on a > Ward basis in NI until the 1950s. > > > > Nevertheless they are of considerable historical interest and I think I > know > how to tag them.. Here is the suggested scheme so that Nominatim disgorges > all the variants. > > > > boundary=electoral_division > > alt_name=Drumsnot DED > > alt_name_1=Drumsnot PLED > > name=Drumsnot > > name:en=Drumsnot District Electoral Division > > place=locality > > type=boundary > > > > Input most welcome from all. > > > > Rgds > > > > C > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
