Länsstyrelsen Gävleborg replied that the Polish firefighters assigned to them are working "Väster om Kölen (berg,ort?) utmed väg 296."
//Mattias On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net> wrote: > I have also asked Länsstyrelsen Gävleborg on Facebook about the current > assignments of the Polish firefighters (and also mentioned that we don't > want to disturb them unnecessarily). They are looking into it. > > //Mattias > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:14 PM, Karl Wettin <karl.wet...@kodapan.se> > wrote: > >> I just sent a mail to Räddningstjänsten Jämtland, asking for the Polish >> teams whereabouts in Jämtland, and if we possible could get continuous >> updates on that. >> >> We shouldn't be guessing where to focus our work when we're so few >> mapping. >> >> I'm aware that it's against the policy of HOT to disturb people on >> ground,to rather wait until contacted, but the Polish firefighters did >> contact HOT (acutally, OSM Poland) asking for help. >> >> >> I hope nobody minds. Please tell me if you do and I'll stop taking >> executive decisions on my own rather than bringing it up here and wait for >> consensus. >> >> >> Kalle >> >> 2018-07-26 17:18 GMT+02:00 Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net>: >> >>> According to http://www.rtjamtland.se/nyheterraddningstjansten/nyhetsa >>> rkivraddningstjansten/skogsbrandernauppdateringavlagetonsdag >>> 257kl2030.5.482e6076163654e3977c647c.html >>> the Polish firefighters assigned to Jämtlands Län appears to work (at >>> least yesterday) in >>> Fågelsjö: https://osm.org/go/0Z18rxR-?m= >>> Storbrättan: https://osm.org/go/0cKo3SZ--?m= >>> >>> And from todays press briefing, it is noted that some personell >>> (Norwegian?) is transfered from Fågelsjö to Storbrättan. >>> Note that Storbrättan is SW of Sveg, which is consistent with the video >>> clip Karl found, however, it is not really near the military area. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mattias >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Micke <mia...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The fire SW and S of Sveg seem to be managed now. No flames according >>>> to this map. >>>> https://kartor.skogsstyrelsen.se/kartorapp/?startapp=skogligagrunddata >>>> >>>> I mapped a lot of roads at Älvdalens skjutfält/Trängslet before I >>>> started the HOT-work E of Sveg. There are however a lot left to map at >>>> Trängslet. >>>> The area S of Sveg was already well mapped by a tourist a year ago, so >>>> I only needed to add a couple of small lakes. >>>> >>>> SW of Sveg I don’t know, but there are no flames there. >>>> >>>> But I think we could use a combined effort at Trängslet (If the Polish >>>> firefighters are going there). >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> AndersAndersson >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>> Från: Karl Wettin <karl.wet...@kodapan.se> >>>> Skickat: den 26 juli 2018 05:15 >>>> Till: OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista <talk-se@openstreetmap.org> >>>> Ämne: Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping >>>> projects >>>> >>>> I think I have figured it out! >>>> >>>> Interview from yesterday with the Polish lead on site in Sveg: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHPUYdkyfjY&feature=youtu.be&t=141 >>>> >>>> Paraphrased: >>>> >>>> " >>>> We are working on two sites that are 20km, more or less, from our base >>>> of operations. >>>> >>>> On the first site we are replacing the Swedish firefighters. >>>> >>>> We are trying to control the fire in a close proximity of the bigger >>>> fire which is south west of Sveg. >>>> " >>>> >>>> So, the second site is the one SW of Sveg at Älvdalens skjutfält. >>>> There are however three larger fires in that area according to VIIRS. >>>> >>>> "In proximity of the bigger fire", does that mean around the larger >>>> fire, or does it mean a smaller fire close to the larger fire? >>>> >>>> There is a smaller fire around 61.60, 13.50. >>>> There is a larger fire at around 61.64, 13.57. >>>> >>>> The third one, at least as large as the large one mentiond above is, if >>>> I figured it out right, the one located within the area they withdrew all >>>> firefighters from as it's a military training ground with risks of >>>> explosion. The one they bombed with fighter jets yesterday. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> kalle >>>> >>>> 2018-07-26 0:40 GMT+02:00 Karl Wettin <karl.wet...@kodapan.se>: >>>> > >>>> > The press contact is open 24/7, so I called them. >>>> > >>>> > MSB knows nothing more than that they are placed in Gävleborg and >>>> Jämtlands län. It is up to each län to decide where they will be deployed. >>>> Our best shot is probably getting a hold of someone in the actual team of >>>> firefighters that can let us know when and where they are deployed. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > kalle >>>> > >>>> > 2018-07-26 0:25 GMT+02:00 Karl Wettin <karl.wet...@kodapan.se>: >>>> >> >>>> >> +1 >>>> >> >>>> >> I’ll try to get in touch the MSB press contact tomorrow (the least >>>> invasive point of contact I can think of) to see if they have any >>>> information regarding the whereabout of the polish brigades. >>>> >> >>>> >> 25 juli 2018 kl. 22:06 skrev Christoffer Holmstedt < >>>> christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com>: >>>> >> >>>> >>> The new project 4912 covers the other project's area is this wise? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I think it would be more wise to cover the areas south and south >>>> west of Sveg but do _not_ include "Älvdalens Skjutfält"/Trängslet [3] as >>>> there are undetonated ammunition in that area so no firefighters are >>>> allowed to go in there. One or more HOT OSM project(s) covering >>>> Strandasmyrvallen [1] and Lillhärdal [2] would be my best suggestions for >>>> mapping efforts without any proper communication with the Polish >>>> firefighters. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> [1] >>>> >>> http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/ems-product-component >>>> /EMSR298 >>>> >>> _05STRANDASMYRVALLEN_01DELINEATION_MONIT01/2 >>>> >>> [2] >>>> >>> http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/ems-product-component >>>> /EMSR298 >>>> >>> _04LILLHARDAL_01DELINEATION_MAP/1 [3] >>>> >>> http://emergency.copernicus.eu/mapping/ems-product-component >>>> /EMSR298 >>>> >>> _03TRANGSLET_01DELINEATION_MONIT01/1 >>>> >>> -- >>>> >>> Christoffer Holmstedt >>>> >>> >>>> >>> 2018-07-25 21:49 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I created a 2nd project for the area SE of Sveg (I left out the SW >>>> >>>> area based on Mattias's comments) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://tasks.hotosm.org/contribute?difficulty=ALL&organisat >>>> ion=OSM >>>> >>>> -SE >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Respectfully, >>>> >>>> blake >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Mattias Lindblad <o...@matli.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Unfortunately that map marks everything, from small >>>> >>>> > wastebasket-fires that are already extinguished to huge >>>> wildfires. >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > http://effis.jrc.ec.europa.eu/static/effis_current_situation >>>> /publ >>>> >>>> > ic/index.html is a bit less detailed, but can be zoomed and use >>>> >>>> > an OSM layer. >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > The area that Blake referred to as being SW of Sveg is probably >>>> >>>> > the fire in the military area Trängslet, which is very >>>> >>>> > problematic in many aspects. I would think that the Polish force >>>> is not deployed there. >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > /Mattias >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > ons 25 juli 2018 kl. 20:40 skrev Björn Stenberg <bj...@haxx.se>: >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> SOS Alarm keeps an updated map here: >>>> >>>> >> https://www.sosalarm.se/lagesbild-brand >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> This map is referred to by government agency sites so it is >>>> >>>> >> probably the best publicly available. Unfortunately it is >>>> rather >>>> >>>> >> zoomed out so I'm not sure it is good enough for our purpose. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> -- >>>> >>>> >> Björn >>>> >>>> >> On 25 July 2018 8:24:05 pm Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> > whoops I spoke to soon, that is very similar to the web map >>>> >>>> >> > service for modis viiris data. >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > ( Still very glad to have it as a wms rather than a web map ) >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > I do not see any hot spots near Sveg. >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > I was hoping Swedish new reports might help locate the actual >>>> >>>> >> > fire sites. >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:05 PM, NKA mapper < >>>> nkamap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >> This WMS will show the actual fire areas: >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/wms/?FORMAT=image/PNG&V >>>> E >>>> >>>> >> >> RSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&LAYERS=fires_modis_7, >>>> f >>>> >>>> >> >> ires_viirs_7&STYLES=&SRS={proj}&WIDTH={width}&HEIGHT={height >>>> } >>>> >>>> >> >> &BBOX={bbox} >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Den ons. 25. jul. 2018 kl. 18:42 skrev Blake Girardot >>>> >>>> >> >> <bgirar...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> Can someone help me locate the actual locations of the >>>> fires >>>> >>>> >> >>> for these two general areas? >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> the polish crew will be placed in Ljusdalen and the other >>>> >>>> >> >>> half around Sveg >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> I can not locate the actual fire locations around those two >>>> areas. >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> Could someone locate those fire areas and send me a geojson >>>> >>>> >> >>> or .osm file so I can create projects around them please? >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> Respectfully, >>>> >>>> >> >>> blake >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> -- >>>> >>>> >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >> >>> Blake Girardot >>>> >>>> >> >>> OSM Wiki - >>>> >>>> >> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot >>>> >>>> >> >>> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot >>>> >>>> >> >>> skype: jblakegirardot >>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >> >>> Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>>> >> >>> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >> >> Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>>> >> >> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > -- >>>> >>>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >> > Blake Girardot >>>> >>>> >> > OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot >>>> >>>> >> > HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot >>>> >>>> >> > skype: jblakegirardot >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >> > Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>>> >> > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >> Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>>> >> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> > Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>>> > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Blake Girardot >>>> >>>> OSM Wiki - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Bgirardot >>>> >>>> HOTOSM Member - https://hotosm.org/users/blake_girardot >>>> >>>> skype: jblakegirardot >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>>> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Talk-se mailing list >>>> >>> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-se mailing list >>>> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-se mailing list >> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se >> >> >
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