Am 11.01.2011 10:34, schrieb Claudius Henrichs:

Arguments for relations in each direction:
- easier to check correctness and completeness (simply select each direction's relation in JOSM) - easier to manage routes where the vehicle takes different routes and stops in each direction
...which is very rare in Europe.
I already see it's more a question of taste here, but I feel it's more elegant to work with seperated relations for each direction.
So do I. This is an indeed more orderly way. But it hits efficiency very much. Administration of two routes when the bus is temporarily rerouted is twice the work.

And besides the above, I've seen such a nonsense as an RE train route entered as two relations.

And less stressfull when using a 300 members opposed to a 500+ member relation.
Don't see the point here, really.
From a short test it seems like P2 does work fine with nested relations so that's no counter-argument anymore.

Does P2 allow copying relations so that the opposite relation can be done easily? I don't think so.

Again, I dislike the current "standard". It's not a standard. But I am against jumping to something new just because we don't like what we have. We could find ourselves in deeper trouble by implementing something that is not easily understood by the mappers, because they will, for example, implement it in a bad way.

So I vote for a simple solution to the existing problem. "Simple" already eliminates anything that resembles oxomoa. And what Teddych proposed is even more complicated.
The type=route_master thingie is new to me,
This has been proposed some time ago as a reply to oxomoa's messiness with data structures. So somebody suggested a bigger mess to make order in a smaller mess. Gib's ein Wort für "efficiency" in deutsche Sprache? Can nobody really see how much more complicated and time-consuming this is becoming? At the cost of what, gaining 5% in data structure clarity? For me the gain isn't really worth the time.

I strongly support this proposal which 90% reflect how I'm currently mapping in Europe and Asia.
Think of new users.
Claudius


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