Hi, On 01.11.2012 01:18, Greg Troxel wrote:
So overall, I would say that if user A complains about user B making non-local objectionable changes, and that's the only complaint, then it's really hard to tell. It could be that the non-local user in some cases is right in a sense (consider bringing a jury of 6 seasoned mappers to the area for a survey and pub discussion about what they'd do, and see how that comes out).
Yes. We do indeed occasionally have local "tagging bullies" who closely monitor everything mapped in their region and disagree with most of it, and there's probably a limit to how much we can let them dictate for their area.
Reasonable people, more or less by definition, do not provoke complaints by large numbers of other reasonable people.
Indeed.
All that said, it's not clear that the DWG is the right group. But I think OSM needs a body of elders (who have the respect of the community as reasonable and fair people) to deal with complaints of behavior that doesn't meet community interaction norms.
DWG currently has a (more or less self-selected) mandate of dealing with disputes, vandalism, and bots/imports. The problem we're talking about here often arises from a dispute but in the end it's not the dispute itself, but the lack of civility in dealing with it that leads to DWG involvement.
Even though we're one world-wide project, communities in different countries are different and the social norms for interaction may be too. I think I speak for most of my colleagues at DWG when I say that we would very much like to be able to refer any cases that are essentially about manners, about getting people to talk to each other in a way that behooves a community project, to some regional or national "body of elders" familiar with the local language and social norms.
Just as we're trying to here ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [email protected] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
