Well then, we can use them to hide the parking lot symbols in DC. 

d. 

On Jun 14, 2013, at 15:11, alyssa wright <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't knock the unicorn viewing sites. They are everywhere.  
> 
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Darrell Fuhriman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Please for the love of god, I see no one here in favor of it but you. They 
>> are imaginary, let's delete them and move on. 
>> 
>> They have no more place in OSM than unicorn viewing locations and alien 
>> landing sites. 
>> 
>> d. 
>> 
>> On Jun 14, 2013, at 14:43, Paul Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Again, I'm still not hearing a suggestion that would keep this valuable 
>>> information in OSM, or a compelling reason not to keep it.  We do map 
>>> proposed routes, we don't map for the renderer.  It still sounds like the  
>>> core issue is some proposals are mapped more specifically than they are on 
>>> paper.  I don't think this is an insurmountable problem to fix within the 
>>> boundaries of not tagging for the renderer.  With that in mind, I would 
>>> love to hear ideas how to tackle the proposed corridor issue so that they 
>>> may be more properly mapped, not outright excluded over cyclemap rendering 
>>> issues.
>>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2013 7:25 AM, "KerryIrons" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Paul,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> You explicitly said that putting 50 mile wide corridors on OSM “would be 
>>>> an important advocacy tool.”
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> That does not sound at all like “mapping reality.”
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I spend hundreds of hours a year on the phone, corresponding, and 
>>>> attending meetings to make the USBR a reality.  I’ve personally been 
>>>> involved in getting over 2,000 miles of USBRs approved.  Don’t give me 
>>>> stuff about being obtuse and saying the USBRS is a pipe dream.  Personal 
>>>> insults are not the path forward.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Kerry Irons
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 11:24 PM
>>>> To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, KerryIrons <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So Paul, what you really want is advocacy mapping.  Not mapping reality 
>>>> but mapping what you want to have.  It comes as a great surprise to me 
>>>> that this is what OSM is all about.  Do you think this is the consensus of 
>>>> the OSM community?  I thought OSM’s goal was to “accurately describe the 
>>>> world” but you are saying it is also advocacy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No, that's not what I'm advocating, and honestly, the way you're 
>>>> approaching this now, I really have to be wondering if you're being 
>>>> deliberately obtuse.  Because if that's actually where you're coming from, 
>>>> you're essentially saying that the USBR system is a pipe dream.  I'm not 
>>>> ready to buy that argument because the premise is fundamentally flawed on 
>>>> a level amounting to argumentum ad absurdum.
>>>> 
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