SteveA, This message is completely off topic and goes in direct contradiction with my previous message.
You have been temporarily moderated as a result. -Your friendly talk-us@ mod On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM, stevea <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > Folks, talk-us@ is a place for discussion, not personal attacks. > > > If you have a problem with a particular user, contact the user and if they > don't respond e-mail [email protected]. > > > Apologies to all. I did/do not wish to attack anybody, just note what > seemed ironic or even humorous. I hereby promise to be more careful with > my tone here. > > While NE2 is no longer contributing, and many of his contributions, to put > it mildly, were "controversial," I do believe he made many important > contributions. For example, his assertions about national bike routes, > while quite premature compared to which routes AASHTO has vs. hasn't > approved, DID spark important discussion between American Cycling > Association and one OSM contributor (me), and I have gone to great lengths > in the last few weeks to improve the situation. > > In some cases this includes deleting a "state=proposed" or "ncn=proposed" > tag from a route relation (which is correct, as AASHTO hasn't approved it > -- a state has not made such an application and it was quite premature of > NE2 to have "jumped the gun" here), I am regularly leaving NE2's relations > in the OSM database as "dummy placeholders" so that when/as Kerry and I > better coordinate state teams who are doing this work in the present and > future, much of the work of adding highway segments will have already been > completed (by NE2). True, they'll have to correct 2% to 10% of what NE2 > did (it varies on each ncn route he asserted), and they'll have to add back > the tags so that OpenCycleMap and waymarkedtrails.org renderers pick up > and render those routes, but that is much better than starting from > scratch. In that sense, I'd like to thank NE2 for that work, even if what > he did was foment a national bicycle route conversation and how it is > mapped in OSM in a "jump the gun" kind of way. > > This message really is meant to convey that there is an important > (off-line now, but started here on talk-us) discussion going on about > national bicycle route mapping, and even thanks a person whom I was > described as attacking. Again, I do not wish to attack, I wish to > discuss. Thank you also to this talk-us forum for the opportunity to do so. > > Renderings at > http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=5&lat=39.3&lon=-92&hill=0&route=1# > of national bike routes are quite accurate (I'd say 98%) as of right about > now. That's a result of literally dozens of tedious emails back and forth > between me and Kerry, and me JOSM-ing my stubby thick fingers off, almost > exclusively what I've been doing the last couple of weeks. OSM, I don't > seek accolades, although you are welcome (we are welcome?). And yet, there > is still so very much more to do! > > SteveA > California > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >
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