SteveA, I apologize for jumping on your post so quickly. I was frustrated that you posted an off-topic comment on a thread that was meant to have been closed. Moderation was unfair because I didn't set clear expectations in my previous message.
To be more clear for everyone: - talk-us is not a forum for personal attacks or mockery - please keep threads on topic (both on topic to the US community and on topic to the thread you're replying to) On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Ian Dees <[email protected]> wrote: > SteveA, > > This message is completely off topic and goes in direct contradiction with > my previous message. > > You have been temporarily moderated as a result. > > -Your friendly talk-us@ mod > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM, stevea <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> >> Folks, talk-us@ is a place for discussion, not personal attacks. >> >> >> If you have a problem with a particular user, contact the user and if >> they don't respond e-mail [email protected]. >> >> >> Apologies to all. I did/do not wish to attack anybody, just note what >> seemed ironic or even humorous. I hereby promise to be more careful with >> my tone here. >> >> While NE2 is no longer contributing, and many of his contributions, to >> put it mildly, were "controversial," I do believe he made many important >> contributions. For example, his assertions about national bike routes, >> while quite premature compared to which routes AASHTO has vs. hasn't >> approved, DID spark important discussion between American Cycling >> Association and one OSM contributor (me), and I have gone to great lengths >> in the last few weeks to improve the situation. >> >> In some cases this includes deleting a "state=proposed" or "ncn=proposed" >> tag from a route relation (which is correct, as AASHTO hasn't approved it >> -- a state has not made such an application and it was quite premature of >> NE2 to have "jumped the gun" here), I am regularly leaving NE2's relations >> in the OSM database as "dummy placeholders" so that when/as Kerry and I >> better coordinate state teams who are doing this work in the present and >> future, much of the work of adding highway segments will have already been >> completed (by NE2). True, they'll have to correct 2% to 10% of what NE2 >> did (it varies on each ncn route he asserted), and they'll have to add back >> the tags so that OpenCycleMap and waymarkedtrails.org renderers pick up >> and render those routes, but that is much better than starting from >> scratch. In that sense, I'd like to thank NE2 for that work, even if what >> he did was foment a national bicycle route conversation and how it is >> mapped in OSM in a "jump the gun" kind of way. >> >> This message really is meant to convey that there is an important >> (off-line now, but started here on talk-us) discussion going on about >> national bicycle route mapping, and even thanks a person whom I was >> described as attacking. Again, I do not wish to attack, I wish to >> discuss. Thank you also to this talk-us forum for the opportunity to do so. >> >> Renderings at >> http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=5&lat=39.3&lon=-92&hill=0&route=1# >> of national bike routes are quite accurate (I'd say 98%) as of right about >> now. That's a result of literally dozens of tedious emails back and forth >> between me and Kerry, and me JOSM-ing my stubby thick fingers off, almost >> exclusively what I've been doing the last couple of weeks. OSM, I don't >> seek accolades, although you are welcome (we are welcome?). And yet, there >> is still so very much more to do! >> >> SteveA >> California >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-us mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> >
_______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
