Also, I believe I linked to the document you're referring to in the wiki announcement? I could be confusing documents here... apologies if I am.
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Steve Coast <st...@asklater.com> wrote: > > Ian > > I was just emailed privately to say there's hesitation to release the > original briefing since they’ve moved beyond that. But I’m not sure that’s > better, since it sounds like there is no documentation and it’s still the > same agenda. > > Also, I’m on the LWG and I saw the emails to the OSMF so I’ve seen all that > too. If anything, it makes it more worrying. All of this has been brought up > privately, it’s not new. You’re kind of skipping over why this isn’t a LWG or > OSMF project. Can we not pretend that there was no feedback from them that > was ignored? > > This project would be great if some combination of the following happened: > > a) the LWG ran it > b) the process to design the work we need was open (instead of sharing the > results in the spring) > c) other companies and the community were involved, actively > d) we could also attract independent lawyers, since in the end we need real > opinion anyway > > I don’t think any of that is happening, which is a shame. > > I think what’s happening, and I’m happy to be wrong, is that this is off and > secret to make sure it doesn’t get overrun by crazy people on the mailing > list. And that’s a legitimate concern. But the way it’s happening is to > exclude everyone else too. > > If the original briefing document is to be kept secret then whatever the new > briefing is should be documented and open. This is fairly basic stuff, and > it’s why, as far as I can tell, the OSMF and LWG didn’t get involved. > > This really has the potential to be a great project of obvious benefit, but > only if it’s open. > > Best > > Steve > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 4:38 PM, Ian Dees <ian.d...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> I assure you that there is nothing secret about this process, its >> intentions, or the result. If you read the blog post (0) and the wiki page >> (1) that Alyssa posted you will find as much information as we have right >> now. Heck, you can even come talk to us face to face at the town hall and >> ask us questions there. We will continue to post about our progress and I'm >> sure we'll have at least one more town hall in the future. >> >> As has been mentioned before, the LWG and OSMF were and are involved in this >> process. >> >> (0) https://openstreetmap.us/2016/02/law-clinic/ >> (1) >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/2016_Law_Clinic >> >>> On Feb 21, 2016 18:16, "Steve Coast" <st...@asklater.com> wrote: >>> It should be pointed out again that this research, based on a - still >>> secret - brief by a company, didn’t happen via the LWG. >>> >>> Hopefully one day we’ll be able to build an open process using real >>> lawyers, instead of secret agendas pushed via students. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 3:58 PM, alyssa wright <alyssapwri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Exciting news here! The OSM US board has partnered with the cyber law >>>> clinic at Harvard University Law School for some cyber law research. 💾 >>>> >>>> We are working with two talented young women who bring legal learning and >>>> perspective to OpenStreetMap questions. This is smart research that we >>>> hope is just the beginning of engaging university students outside of >>>> geography and computer majors (which IS most of us anyway). >>>> >>>> We'll be sharing the semester research in the Spring but if you want to >>>> learn more posthaste join us for a Town Hall next Wednesday. To whet the >>>> legal scholars out there you can also check out the blog announcement >>>> starring our newly elected OSM US pet representative. >>>> >>>> We're also accepting nominations for next year's OSM US pet mascot. 🐈😜 >>>> >>>> Let us know if you have any questions! >>>> Best, >>>> Alyssa. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-us mailing list >>>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
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