On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:
> Hi, > > * Contact the mapper responsible and politely ask them to fix it and/or > stop adding advertising. In most cases, since these are throwaway > accounts created by professional spammers, you won't receive a response > but when in doubt, try it. > > * Use the business contact information provided to call/email them and > ask which SEO firm they have paid to add data to OSM, and explain how > this volunteer project is damaged by the actions of the SEO firm and > that this also tarnishes the business reputation. Recommended if you > like a little fight; some SEO operations have already been stopped from > abusing OSM that way. > > * Should we have some MapRoulette task or OSMCha automatism or OSMI view > to detect potential advertising? > > The data is in CSV format with the columns: > > date_last_edited,object,created_by,last_edited_by,name,description > > > http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/us-seo.txt Frederik, Thank you for the cleanup that you have done. As of late my changesets have focused on addressing and additional cleanup of Search Engine Optimization, SEO, spam in Arizona. In the case of SEO spam you might just be wasting your time trying to contact them.* Here are two examples of SEO spam that I finally deleted. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4784217504/history https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Copper%20Canyon%20Law% 20LLC%C2%A0Tax%20Attorney https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4792771037/history https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Simplified%20Celebration The first set of links are actually in Arizona while the second set of links are for a company in Washington State. I tried contacting the owner of the first set of links*. I received no response. I provide these ids because it would be interesting if someone can look into the OSM database and see if these SEO mappers used the same SEO spam email address company i.e. seosp...@seospamcorp.com. If so, then a black list filter at the OSM signup level could be a great tool to fight the spam. I also wonder if a black list service such as https://www.spamhaus.org/organization/dnsblusage/ might help or if we can use the service. I would think that OSM qualifies at under 100,000 emails/accounts a day. Anyhow, many months after my email* and around 11 months in OSM, I finally deleted both of these spam nodes. It feels like my email went to the spammers and not the business owner. I also wonder about the user account. Has the spammer still won if the name is not change to user_xxxxx and the contact email removed? I also found it interesting that mapper Владимир%20К thought it important to undo some of Frederik's changes as can be seen in the history for these nodes. I am not sure that a MapRoulette task would be of helpful but that may be worth a try. Your OSM Inspector address overlay[1] has been a great tool for hunting down the SEO spammers and advertisement. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4911881645/history Where your address checker helped on this address was that the house number was in the general range of address numbers but Camelback Road is way south of this location. That address came up as a nice red shinny dot in a residential area. Mapillary sequences on Camelback Road would make it easier to add the address at the correct location verses moving the address. Resolution delete. A MapRoulette challenge for a mapper outside my local area may take a large effort to correct the address verses my quick determination. As an example, Владимир%20К, from Russia could not determine that these were bad addresses and not worth saving. In another set of changes[2], a mapper from Germany could not determine that 1 was the wrong address number for the area. We need additional tools with address number ranges and zipcode boundaries to detect these issues. Moreover, the US states need to be treated like individual countries in Europe. Pascal's OSM tool does not help me at a state level when the whole US is treated as one blob. Several years ago I had two mappers add a bunch of addr:* tags in my mapping area then disappear. All those red streets in OSMI made for an ineffective tool. The red from the streets reduced the effectiveness of detecting bad addresses/spam. I have cleaned up most of these streets now. Now I can use OSMI to also detect street names that have been changed to business names by SEO or other kinds of map spammers. Of course that only works if I have address coverage to match. In this cause, all of the address nodes would turn red. The last set of links that I provide you is also number two in Frederiks' Arizona list. I will soon be deleting this spam. Now people _please don't click_ on the URL in the node if you do not like birthday suits. I believe this was really was a yoga place at one time but now is into some other new age stuff. Yet this kind of spam is just a redirect to a birthday suite social media site. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2714951212 https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=33.60575213999999&lng=-112.03674534999999&z=17&pKey=lOBrWTfihNvzRjD0ljmlkQ&focus=photo&x=0.48812994789617914&y=0.5560204805424189&zoom=0 I hope these ideas help other mappers cope with the problem. Regards, Greg [1] https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresses&lon=-112.02907&lat=33.61397&zoom=14&overlays=buildings,buildings_with_addresses,postal_code,entrances_deprecated,entrances,no_addr_street,street_not_found,place_not_found,misformatted_housenumber_lenient,nodes_with_addresses_defined,nodes_with_addresses_interpolated,interpolation,interpolation_errors,connection_lines,nearest_points,nearest_roads,nearest_areas,addrx_on_nonclosed_way [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56696941 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56696420 http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=United States * Dear Kyle, Your firm represents two areas that need careful work and pay close attention to detail. Either you paid someone or a person in your firm made this edit below in OpenStreetMap, OSM. The problem is that when I search for your firm in OSM, I find your Main Street address out by Usery Mountain Regional Park. I certainly wouldn't want to drive there. I noticed that all your other social media placements have the right location. However, for OSM the perception of your detailed work does not look like you care about "small fry". The perception is that you would not pay attention to my small account for estate planning, tax returns, and what not. Would you please go back to your website host or whomever made this change and have them correct it? The current effort is damaging your firm's perception.
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