On 14/07/2020 09.44, Alex Hennings wrote:
Regarding:
a driveway to a house should not be tagged access=yes
because a no trespassing sign cannot be seen.  That is a complete
violation of verfiability, becuase the mapper has zero evidence that
access should be yes.
*Given our defaults, no access tag is equivalent> to that.*

You're saying *omitting* a tag violates *verifiability*. That.... doesn't
compute. Requiring tags to be verifiable with evidence specifically means
the opposite of that. But that might get us closer to the source of
disagreement. You and I interpret a *missing* access tag differently. *You
read a missing access tag to mean access=yes*. (Is there documentation to
support that somewhere? or... why do you think that?)

That's how iD represents it.

There is, of course, a solution to this... propose a new value with the appropriate semantics.

The (possible) problem with having access implied by service=driveway is that a lot of access roads to stores/businesses/offices are also service=driveway... although I suppose you could argue these have the same semantics; you shouldn't be using them unless you're actually going to the location to which they provide access. (Which isn't to say that no one ever violates this...)

--
Matthew

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