May I ask for the full company name?
Radioworld is a new one for me.
I do agree, they sound like a fine resource!
Cheers,
Karen



On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Erica Peterson wrote:

Karen, if this is for a reader (not music), maybe you could visit (or email) 
Radioworld and talk with them about their headphones and headsets?  
Unfortunately there don't seem to be good product filtering options on the 
website, but I would think they would be knowledgeable about the specific 
parameters you care about.

Cheers,
Erica

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On Friday, January 14th, 2022 at 4:53 PM, Nicholas Krause <[email protected]> 
wrote:

On 1/14/22 15:52, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi nick,

I still owe you a response to your note about cellphones, audiophiles, and

in the ear monitors...imagine a scrunched face here.

Speaking personally, one does not enjoy quality music on a cellphone smiles.

This audiophile uses a real stereo with real speakers with her real vinyl 
collection.

To answer your question, I was given too much anesthetic during an eye surgery 
resulting in a vascular accident to a very tiny part of my brain. In the area 
that processes speech.

There are solutions, perhaps consult the book "the brain's way of healing." or 
even the CBC special.

Anyway, one result is issues with some frequencies. Aside from headphones, 
rather a few cell phones, even cordless phones create the same impact, I can 
get dizzy, with some far far worse factors if exposure continues for a long 
time.

My cell for example is a lg flip phone, not a smartphone.

It seems? that the closer to analog, the happier my brain happens to be.

Because I am a singer, some of the doctors discussed in the above referenced 
book began healing this part of my brain, neural plasticity is a magical thing.

Could not finish due to expense at the time however.

Intend returning, with everything crossed staff with the Listening centre here 
in Toronto remain well.

Long answer to a short question, but long before I had a solution, I was 
choosing my audio gear very carefully, and my needs differ depending on the 
device in question.

One set of headphone needs for my talking computer, another for my stereo, a 
third for my portable Walkman etc.

Does this make sense?

Kare

That helps now. So your talking about wave form issues with digital conversion. 
Most high

end DACs get rid of this. As for headphones, that would be some part of the 
frequency not

sure what. Most really high end headphones don't have this issue. I'm not a 
expert but

that's probably in the mid high to high frequencies if your talking core less. 
It

seems that's my best guess. You probably want PCM 96khz or above at least to 
get as close

to analog as possible if that's your comment. As you mentioned unless you have 
a actual

good DAC, it's not going to matter here.

As for IEMs, the market is much better now. Sure it's not as good as true open 
backed or

really, really high end loudspeakers i.e. Class A. I look at them more as it's 
not terrible

from my very picky perspective for portable use. I'm very picky even more than 
most of the

audiophiles I know. I was in the middle of researching my own vinyl setup 
actually that

meets my standards. So far I'm figured out that moving coil is the only way to 
go. Not sure

when it will happen through.

Nick

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Nicholas Krause wrote:

Karen,

What do you mean by dizzy actually? Normally that or fatigue is a comfort or 
sound sensitivity issue.

For example, these days I've very sensitive to frequencies in the mid range and 
mid treble. That's

about 400hz - 1khz and 6khz-10khz. You may want to figure out if your sensitive 
to sound issues in

certain parts of the spectrum. Or perhaps you mean something else. This is just 
my experience with

various people.

Good luck with your search through,

Nick

On 1/14/22 15:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi Erica,

The Sony Mdr-7506 headphones have been a staple of audio production for

honestly decades. I got my pair in hmmm2004 or 2005.

However, this is a fine example of my personal issue...I cannot use them.

The impedance on this model is 24, and they make me dizzy.

I do have production assistants use them, and in all these years the ear

pads remain flawless.

That being said, I may be reaching out to Sony directly, as my e-mail

exchange with JVC is becoming rather frustrating smiles.

best,

Kare

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Erica Peterson wrote:

You may have better luck picking a few common brands and going to the > manufacturer 
websites. Sony, for example, will let you select multiple > models for comparison 
across features: > https://www.sony.ca/en/electronics/headphones/t/headband-headphones

FWIW, about 5 years ago I got a Sony MDR-7506 headset -- admittedly, not > based on any sort of audiophile 
specs, but because I'd seen them used in > recording studios and figured that was a strong point in their 
favor. > I'm still very happy with it but with two small quibbles: (1) the cable > doesn't detach, so it 
would be a pain to replace if I were to damage it, > and (2) the material covering the pads degrades after a 
few years. I > just replaced the pads with "Wicked Cushions" from Amazon, which are > made to fit 
popular headset models. The Wicked Cushions are great so > far.

Erica

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On Friday, January 14th, 2022 at 1:02 AM, Nicholas Krause via talk > 
[email protected] wrote:

On 2022-01-14 12:50 a.m., Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi there,

You know something I have a hard time picturing what closed back

actually means.

to my imagination open back means nothing behind my head, which is > > > my

preference. are closed back those behind your head then?

I agree on 32 for impedance..but sometimes they are higher. even > > > with

no amp involved.

Kare

Karen,

Open Backs have open grills or leak sound through the outer part of > > the

ear cups. They don't isolated sound the way most headphones do. You

don't see them outside of the audiophile market. The problem with

closing or isolating sound is frequency issues basically. Sound stage > > is

one big improvement on them as you can let the drivers actually > > breathe.

Most consumer amps in cellphones or whatever can get about 60-90 ohms > > if

your asking. So anything beyond that is not good. This is a problem > > for

IEMS in the audiophile market as they have to gear them for cellphones

actually so most are around 32-48 ohms from memory.

Nick

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Nicholas Krause wrote:

On 2022-01-13 4:25 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:

Hi there,

Fine and interesting list.

To be sure, the idea of noise cancellation, or any variation's > > > > > is a 
no,

not just because of the sense of position, but because I have

something

talking in my ears when I use them in this particular > > > > > setting..no 
phone

ringing, door bells, or the all important music playing in the

background.

As I have been a radio producer, and professional singer for > > > > > many many

years, over the ear headphones are the most comfortable, > > > > > speaking

personally.

I truly dislike earbuds, they tend not to stay in my ears, to > > > > > put

pressure on my ear canal etc...and the buttons are a no, mic > > > > > 
interferes

with the machine.

The most important thing, for this particular set of headphones

though is

A combination of frequency range, sensitivity, impedance, and > > > > > driver

units...oh and input power.

a few settings in the wrong direction, and the headphones will > > > > > make me

dizzy..literary.

And those numbers can be device specific, what I will use for my

reading

edge, differs for what I use for production, or music listening, > > > > > or

whatever.

It is part of why once found I may buy more than one pair.

Cannot fault you for using the same ones since the 80's. Had a > > > > > set

once

I got from radio shack that I used for more than a decade as > > > > > well.

Goodness but I miss radio shack.

Kare

Greetings Karen,

I would not find the model in the previous email. However, my two > > > > sense

are over ear can mean different things. A current pair of > > > > headphones was

stated that but it's more what Hugh was calling something else.

The other things were I normally prefer open backed as it's the > > > > only way

to not screw around with frequency issues. I've my reasons. As to

standard closed backs AKG, Sennheiser, Sony are the big good > > > > players

from memory. I'm not sure of the site design for your needs so > > > > sorry :(.

Your original pair was around 200 dollars from memory and they all

have something good in that price point to my knowledge.

As to weight normally anything under 400 grams is fine for most > > > > people.

And for impendance it should be 32 ohms or less if your not using > > > > an

actual amp.

Take care,

Nick

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:

| From: Karen Lewellen via talk [email protected]

| If you desire a visual idea then perhaps google jvc > > > > > > > | ha-s44x.

Thanks.

From past discussions, I know your shopping technique isn't > > > > > > > like

mine.

But I'll mention my considerations on the off chance you > > > > > > > might

find them

useful.

Most wired headphones are electrically / electronically

interchangeable. Of course that's a good thing. It also > > > > > > > > means

that > there

are a lot to choose from.

There are lots of issues of sound reproduction quality, but > > > > > > > to be

honest, all should have sound quality that is good enough > > > > > > > for a

reader

(as I understand it).

I would imagine that the main issues are comfort -- a very

individual

thing. Oh, and durability -- not something in the specs!

Here's what I glean from the specs of your old headphones:

-   closed (i.e. they try to block sound from your > > > > > > > environment)

-   over-ear [I find such headphones uncomfortable fairly > > > > > > > quickly]
-   5.57 ounces
-   button controls (what do they control?)
-   1.2 m cable [the units are unspecified but 1.2 ft > > > > > > > would be

     very short]


Do you use the buttons? What for?

I think "over-ear" means that these clamp on your ear as > > > > > > > opposed 
to

clamping on your head around the ear ("circumaural"). I find

over-ear

very uncomfortable after a few minutes but I seem to be in a

minority.

Do you really want to have sound isolation from the room

("closed")?

I imagine "situational awareness" would be useful.

Out of habit, I use ancient Sennheiser HD430 phones. They > > > > > > > are

circumaural, light, open [i.e. I can hear things going on in > > > > > > > the

room], good enough sound. They have replaceable cables and > > > > > > > ear 
pads

(but now hard to find). Out of production since 1986. I find > > > > > > > that

even these get uncomfortable after a while.

My current favourite is ear-buds. The ones with a selection > > > > > > > of

soft

tips, not the hard ones. You can get decent inexpensive ones > > > > > > > from

China.

I have, for example:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002184896879.html

Currently C$16.84 without microphone. I paid less.

There are many other brands that are likely fine.

There is an enthusiastic following for "Chi-fi".

TWS (true wireless stereo) headphones are amazingly > > > > > > > convenient

if you > have

Bluetooth. But you don't. There are a lot of adapters to > > > > > > > convert

analog

to Bluetooth but I don't have any experience with them.

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