I agree. With absolutely no data to back this up, I bet any "serious" web user has JavaScript on and probably [relatively] up-to-date on their browser version. So, like the proverbial Willy Sutton reply, [Why do you rob banks, Willy?] "Cause that's where the money is"
Why do we write code with no progressive fall-back? "Cause that's where the money is" On 2/26/07, Kenneth Downs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cliff Hirsch wrote: I'm seeing more and more applications that simply do not work if JavaScript is turned off. In fact, I'm looking at purchasing a slick shopping cart that seems great, but I think the lack of progressive fallback is a show stopper. Whatever happened to building a robust PHP application and only then layering on the client-side enhancements? To me this lack of progressive fall-back is just laziness, arrogance, or the victim of the usual time pressures. This isn't an opinionated group — right?! So I curious to here what others think. It's probably just market trends. Fewer and fewer people have Javascript turned off (or so it is perceived), and so they are less and less of a constituency. At some point a person says, why am I bothering with this for? Or, how far back to I have to remain compatible? Then a lot of people say that, and suddenly Javascript is required. Are there any data sources that measure what browsers people are using today and what percentage of people turn JS off or don't have it? Cliff ________________________________ _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php -- Kenneth Downs Secure Data Software, Inc. www.secdat.com / www.andromeda-project.org Office: 631-689-7200 Cell: 631-379-0010 ::Think you may have a problem with programming? Ask yourself this ::question: do you worry about how to throw away a garbage can? _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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