I have a split opinion on this.
I've set up a lot of applications where javascript really was required
for some things that I wanted to do. Sometimes it really just isn't an
option. However, I think it's good practice to at least *warn* the user
that javascript is required. This is really true for applications
developed for a niche - a small group of users that you have some
measure of control over.
On the other hand, for applications developed for the public in general,
I try to make it was friendly as possible for those who choose to
disable Javascript (the only people that seem to do this these days are
Firefox users who are trying to avoid annoying ads).
I myself haven't seen any statistics on Javascript usage - all I've
heard has been anecdotal. I'd be curious to see some stats as well.
- Brian
Kenneth Downs wrote:
Cliff Hirsch wrote:
I’m seeing more and more applications that simply do not work if
JavaScript is turned off. In fact, I’m looking at purchasing a slick
shopping cart that seems great, but I think the lack of progressive
fallback is a show stopper.
Whatever happened to building a robust PHP application and only then
layering on the client-side enhancements? To me this lack of
progressive fall-back is just laziness, arrogance, or the victim of
the usual time pressures. This isn’t an opinionated group — right?! So
I curious to here what others think.
It's probably just market trends. Fewer and fewer people have
Javascript turned off (or so it is perceived), and so they are less and
less of a constituency. At some point a person says, why am I bothering
with this for? Or, how far back to I have to remain compatible? Then a
lot of people say that, and suddenly Javascript is required.
Are there any data sources that measure what browsers people are using
today and what percentage of people turn JS off or don’t have it?
Cliff
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