Most programmers on this esteemed list, including those who are located in remote areas of the U.S., agree that working for substantially less than $50 sets a bad example and undercuts a living wage for the whole lot of us. I know many programmers outside of NYC who also earn the standard $50 an hour and I think that, for anyone of any reasonable expertise and experience, between $45-50 is a very reasonable benchmark and for costing out "lump sum" projects, the $2,000 a week figure is useful.

Bear in mind that for every hour we bill out, we also incur the cost of expenses, business losses through unpaid invoices, unpaid time spent marketing, bookkeeping etc. In reality, billing at $25 an hour would lead to a poverty income for any consultant, unless they were consistently able to bill 60+ hours each & every week of the year, which is not a reasonable or pleasant expectation.

Kristina

On 4/2/2011 3:56 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
Well, my point wasn't so much an exact price but rather that the rate
you charge largely has to do with where you're providing services. Since
I'm not sure where Bruce is (I am assuming NYC but I don't know) I
simply used a number I'd seen elsewhere. The number itself is
meaningless, really, but the idea was what I was trying to convey.

You're right though that 'website design' probably does differ a lot in
rate from programming but numbers weren't my point. :-)

Anthony


On 04/02/2011 02:39 AM, Kristina Anderson wrote:
That is incorrect.  Perhaps a few programmers at Wall Street firms are
getting $90 an hour, but the going rate for normal folks here in NYC is
about $50/hr.

Although for sure plenty of folks come onto the NYC list and try to
undercut our rates...

Also "website redesign" is not usually programming but involves other
skills (like CSS, graphics design, etc).  I would not be surprised to
see rates differ between that and actual programming tasks.

Kristina

On 4/2/2011 12:04 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
Hi Bruce,

I think it largely depends where you are. For example, if you're in
NYC, you can easily command a *much* higher rate than I can here in
Oklahoma. In NYC, the going rate is $90+ an hour I hear while I work
comfortably here for $25.50 to $30 an hour. So depending on where you
are, you might not be undercharging at all.

Check your competition and see what they charge. Set your prices
according to your local market.

Anthony

On 4/1/11, Bruce Martin<bmar...@mac.com>   wrote:
Hi all, I was wondering how much the going rate for a website
redesign is
going for now days. I am always turned down in my town for charging too
much, but I really can't see doing a site for less.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/18m-being-spent-to-redesign-recoverygov-web-site.html


I think I am under charging. Sorry to bring this up but it is really
eating
away at me, as I know I would have loved to been in on this bidding,
if in
deed it did go up for bid.

Bruce Martin
c. 917-727-8230
p. 570-421-0670
bmar...@mac.com





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