NYC programmers should be charging much greater than $50/hour. What's $50/hour after the Federal, State and Local governments get their cut? As a consultant/part-timer/freelancer you'll be getting paid via 1099, which, at least in NYC, will be taxed at up to 45%. I haven't worked in finance, but when I've done parttime consulting, $150/hr was my going rate. In case anyone is unsure, demand for programmers in many localities is very, very high. In a hiring environment like this, there should be no reason to devalue your work to win a contract.
- jake On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Bruce Martin <bmar...@mac.com> wrote: > Thanks for the replies. > > Bruce Martin > c. 917-727-8230 > p. 570-421-0670 > bmar...@mac.com > > > > On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Kristina Anderson wrote: > > > Most programmers on this esteemed list, including those who are located > in remote areas of the U.S., agree that working for substantially less than > $50 sets a bad example and undercuts a living wage for the whole lot of us. > I know many programmers outside of NYC who also earn the standard $50 an > hour and I think that, for anyone of any reasonable expertise and > experience, between $45-50 is a very reasonable benchmark and for costing > out "lump sum" projects, the $2,000 a week figure is useful. > > > > Bear in mind that for every hour we bill out, we also incur the cost of > expenses, business losses through unpaid invoices, unpaid time spent > marketing, bookkeeping etc. In reality, billing at $25 an hour would lead > to a poverty income for any consultant, unless they were consistently able > to bill 60+ hours each & every week of the year, which is not a reasonable > or pleasant expectation. > > > > Kristina > > > > On 4/2/2011 3:56 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > >> Well, my point wasn't so much an exact price but rather that the rate > >> you charge largely has to do with where you're providing services. Since > >> I'm not sure where Bruce is (I am assuming NYC but I don't know) I > >> simply used a number I'd seen elsewhere. The number itself is > >> meaningless, really, but the idea was what I was trying to convey. > >> > >> You're right though that 'website design' probably does differ a lot in > >> rate from programming but numbers weren't my point. :-) > >> > >> Anthony > >> > >> > >> On 04/02/2011 02:39 AM, Kristina Anderson wrote: > >>> That is incorrect. Perhaps a few programmers at Wall Street firms are > >>> getting $90 an hour, but the going rate for normal folks here in NYC is > >>> about $50/hr. > >>> > >>> Although for sure plenty of folks come onto the NYC list and try to > >>> undercut our rates... > >>> > >>> Also "website redesign" is not usually programming but involves other > >>> skills (like CSS, graphics design, etc). I would not be surprised to > >>> see rates differ between that and actual programming tasks. > >>> > >>> Kristina > >>> > >>> On 4/2/2011 12:04 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote: > >>>> Hi Bruce, > >>>> > >>>> I think it largely depends where you are. For example, if you're in > >>>> NYC, you can easily command a *much* higher rate than I can here in > >>>> Oklahoma. In NYC, the going rate is $90+ an hour I hear while I work > >>>> comfortably here for $25.50 to $30 an hour. So depending on where you > >>>> are, you might not be undercharging at all. > >>>> > >>>> Check your competition and see what they charge. Set your prices > >>>> according to your local market. > >>>> > >>>> Anthony > >>>> > >>>> On 4/1/11, Bruce Martin<bmar...@mac.com> wrote: > >>>>> Hi all, I was wondering how much the going rate for a website > >>>>> redesign is > >>>>> going for now days. I am always turned down in my town for charging > too > >>>>> much, but I really can't see doing a site for less. > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/18m-being-spent-to-redesign-recoverygov-web-site.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think I am under charging. Sorry to bring this up but it is really > >>>>> eating > >>>>> away at me, as I know I would have loved to been in on this bidding, > >>>>> if in > >>>>> deed it did go up for bid. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bruce Martin > >>>>> c. 917-727-8230 > >>>>> p. 570-421-0670 > >>>>> bmar...@mac.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >>> > >>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation > >> _______________________________________________ > >> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >> > >> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation >
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