Thanks for the replies. Bruce Martin c. 917-727-8230 p. 570-421-0670 bmar...@mac.com
On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Kristina Anderson wrote: > Most programmers on this esteemed list, including those who are located in > remote areas of the U.S., agree that working for substantially less than $50 > sets a bad example and undercuts a living wage for the whole lot of us. I > know many programmers outside of NYC who also earn the standard $50 an hour > and I think that, for anyone of any reasonable expertise and experience, > between $45-50 is a very reasonable benchmark and for costing out "lump sum" > projects, the $2,000 a week figure is useful. > > Bear in mind that for every hour we bill out, we also incur the cost of > expenses, business losses through unpaid invoices, unpaid time spent > marketing, bookkeeping etc. In reality, billing at $25 an hour would lead to > a poverty income for any consultant, unless they were consistently able to > bill 60+ hours each & every week of the year, which is not a reasonable or > pleasant expectation. > > Kristina > > On 4/2/2011 3:56 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >> Well, my point wasn't so much an exact price but rather that the rate >> you charge largely has to do with where you're providing services. Since >> I'm not sure where Bruce is (I am assuming NYC but I don't know) I >> simply used a number I'd seen elsewhere. The number itself is >> meaningless, really, but the idea was what I was trying to convey. >> >> You're right though that 'website design' probably does differ a lot in >> rate from programming but numbers weren't my point. :-) >> >> Anthony >> >> >> On 04/02/2011 02:39 AM, Kristina Anderson wrote: >>> That is incorrect. Perhaps a few programmers at Wall Street firms are >>> getting $90 an hour, but the going rate for normal folks here in NYC is >>> about $50/hr. >>> >>> Although for sure plenty of folks come onto the NYC list and try to >>> undercut our rates... >>> >>> Also "website redesign" is not usually programming but involves other >>> skills (like CSS, graphics design, etc). I would not be surprised to >>> see rates differ between that and actual programming tasks. >>> >>> Kristina >>> >>> On 4/2/2011 12:04 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote: >>>> Hi Bruce, >>>> >>>> I think it largely depends where you are. For example, if you're in >>>> NYC, you can easily command a *much* higher rate than I can here in >>>> Oklahoma. In NYC, the going rate is $90+ an hour I hear while I work >>>> comfortably here for $25.50 to $30 an hour. So depending on where you >>>> are, you might not be undercharging at all. >>>> >>>> Check your competition and see what they charge. Set your prices >>>> according to your local market. >>>> >>>> Anthony >>>> >>>> On 4/1/11, Bruce Martin<bmar...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, I was wondering how much the going rate for a website >>>>> redesign is >>>>> going for now days. I am always turned down in my town for charging too >>>>> much, but I really can't see doing a site for less. >>>>> >>>>> http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/18m-being-spent-to-redesign-recoverygov-web-site.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think I am under charging. Sorry to bring this up but it is really >>>>> eating >>>>> away at me, as I know I would have loved to been in on this bidding, >>>>> if in >>>>> deed it did go up for bid. >>>>> >>>>> Bruce Martin >>>>> c. 917-727-8230 >>>>> p. 570-421-0670 >>>>> bmar...@mac.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >>> >>> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation >> _______________________________________________ >> New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk >> >> http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation >> > > > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation
