Actually according to what I was told is that if Microsoft expozes the wigits or objects if you like that term better to UIA this new system could be quite accessible with a screen reader such as narrator or window-eyes. This framework is not just going in to windows mobile but will also be going in to windows pro as well. After all, all aps that will run on windows mobile will run on windows 10 pro. This means like I said if the wigits were exposed to UIA no modification's to the apps themselves would be needed. Of course they would need to make sure that the app worked with voice over or talk back in order to be accessible. This is according to what another screen reader maker told me. This is not speculation on my part. Was playing with narrator for windows 8.1 on my pc not to long ago and it is about what you would exspect from lets say voice over. A little to chatty from the keyboard, but I could see myself working with it on a phone device.
Hth -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 5:26 AM To: Lloyd Rasmussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Breaking! Microsoft brings Android, iOS apps to Windows 10 I presume if Microsoft's Strategy of persuading iOS AppDevelopers as well as Android AppDevelopers to port their MobileApps over to Windows10 in the form of Microsoft's Universal Apps, neither Apple's VoiceOver nor Google-Android's TalkBack will be part of the package. I beleive the only option is Microsoft's Narrator. I'm hoping there are enough people in the community to offer insight on how to modify/alter these Apps so they are indeed accessible using Narrator. I know there are a few people, who are employed by Microsoft, who are either totally blind and/or LowVision, but I also believe there are either totally blind and/or LowVision people, who are already employed within Google, and that hasn't actually translated into a more "accessible" MobileOS to navigate with its TalkBack (i.e., Google-Android TalkBack) I don't think AI Squared's WindowEYES is a viable option in Microsoft's MobileSpace as I haven't heard of any WindowEYES Gestures to efficiently navigate aTouchScreen interface and/or MobileOS I'm glad that Microsoft may have discovered/uncovered a way to Close the Gap in terms of available apps IN its AppStore I'll definitely Send them FeedBack when My Microsoft LumiaIcon-Lumia929 receives its Windows10 update as it pertains to accessible Apps as well to the AppDevelopers, who some may be open if they altered/modified them previously on other MobileOS (Apple's iOS & Google's Android) At 03:57 AM 4/30/2015, you wrote: >I am very skeptical about some of the Windows 10 speculation that has >gone around in recent months. Will Window-Eyes run on Windows 10 >phones? Not unless it is recompiled and probably rewritten (again). >Android apps are written in a language similar to Java for touch-screen >devices. They may work visually for people running their Windows 10 >devices in touch-screen mode, but will that translate at all into >something that is keyboard-accessible? One of my sayings is that >accessibility doesn't fall out of the trees. Even if well-meaning >people have written a framework that enables some kind of nonvisual >accessibility, a lot of work will need to be done to make that >framework sing and enable us to compute as efficiently as our sighted >neighbors. There will be change, and in 10 years it will surprise us >all. Just don't expect it to arrive suddenly, all ready to use. > > > >Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD >http://lras.home.sprynet.com >-----Original Message----- From: Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk >Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:01 PM >To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >Subject: FW: Breaking! Microsoft brings Android, iOS apps to Windows 10 > >Hi, > >What will this mean for screen reader users? Will we be able to use >window-eyes with these apps on windows 10? > >This is exciting news for windows user who are blind if in fact these >apps will be supported with our screen reader on windows 10. > >Thanks. > > > > > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Trenton Matthews >Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:41 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Breaking! 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