Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have 
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run 
Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow 
Window-Eyes to run and be used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (750000) wrote:
> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can 
> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
> narrator?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
> Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
> working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
> upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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