Thanks Doug: That's a great relief. Kevin Huber On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > Kevin, > > Oh, there is no problem at all if you just stay with Windows 7. The > upgrade always contains the mirror driver when being installed under > Windows Vista and Windows 7 and the accessibility driver when being > installed under Windows 8.x and Windows 10. It just figures out your > environment and installs the correct one. The issue is only when you > upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 because the driver itself never got > switched from mirror to accessibility. But since all Window-Eyes > upgrade installers have everything, this is why I suggested just running > it after going to 10 as it will realize you are in 10 and install the > accessibility driver. > > Doug > > On 7/27/2015 4:02 PM, Kevin Huber wrote: >> Hi Doug: >> >> Thanks for pointing out the problem with the mirror drivers in Windows 7. >> Now suppose I have Windows 7 and want to stay with it, but I have >> downloaded Windows 9.2. >> How will the lack of a mirror driver affect me? Will there be any >> applications which will become unusable for me? >> Kevin Huber >> >> >> On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Don, >>> >>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes. >>> Let me address each. >>> >>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed >>> >>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer. Windows 10 will block >>> the installation of any version less than 9.2. >>> >>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system >>> >>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this >>> point. Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself >>> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you >>> with the Windows 10 installation. Windows Narrator can be launched with >>> Windows-Enter. >>> >>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10 >>> >>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before >>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue. I have not seen the >>> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday >>> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds >>> I've been testing I've seen the following. I had Windows 9.2 installed >>> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10 >>> upgrade. Everything was working well and speaking perfectly. However, >>> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes >>> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator. After those two screens >>> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be >>> working under Windows 10. >>> >>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes >>> accessibility driver. The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver >>> which Window-Eyes has. But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not >>> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the >>> driver causing there to be no off screen model. In most cases you don't >>> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve >>> this. The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes >>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10. So after Window 10 has been >>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it. This >>> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a >>> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10. >>> >>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10 >>> >>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before >>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue. Like Windows 7 there >>> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you >>> will need Narrator. After that Window-Eyes will come up and your >>> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2. There is >>> nothing extra you need to do. Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an >>> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the >>> upgrade. >>> >>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to >>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting: >>> >>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Doug >>> >>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: >>>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted >>>> help? Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10? >>>> Thanks >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgeoffray%40aisquared.com. >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author >>> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
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