While this could change, I've found that Narrator works after the second reboot.
Regards, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:15 PM To: Doug Geoffray <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10 Doug, So, during the process, how will you know when to run Narrator? On 7/27/2015 12:05 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote: > Richard, > > As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have > Window-Eyes running. These couple screens will require you to run > Narrator. But all other places the upgrade process will allow > Window-Eyes to run and be used. > > Doug > > On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (750000) wrote: >> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can >> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use >> narrator? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10 >> >> Don, >> >> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes. >> Let me address each. >> >> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed >> >> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer. Windows 10 will block >> the installation of any version less than 9.2. >> >> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system >> >> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this >> point. Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself >> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you >> with the Windows 10 installation. Windows Narrator can be launched with >> Windows-Enter. >> >> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10 >> >> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before >> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue. I have not seen the >> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday >> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds >> I've been testing I've seen the following. I had Windows 9.2 installed >> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10 >> upgrade. Everything was working well and speaking perfectly. However, >> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes >> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator. After those two screens >> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be >> working under Windows 10. >> >> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes >> accessibility driver. The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver >> which Window-Eyes has. But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not >> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the >> driver causing there to be no off screen model. In most cases you don't >> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve >> this. The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes >> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10. So after Window 10 has been >> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it. This >> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a >> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10. >> >> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10 >> >> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before >> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue. Like Windows 7 there >> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you >> will need Narrator. After that Window-Eyes will come up and your >> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2. There is >> nothing extra you need to do. Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an >> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the >> upgrade. >> >> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to >> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting: >> >> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/ >> >> Regards, >> Doug >> >> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: >>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted >>> help? 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