I think this is good advice David, but a lot depends on whether you have 
reasonable access to sighted help if there's a problem.  There are blind people 
who just don't ever.

To those who are resistant to trying the best anti-malware programs, I suggest 
do try to use to mouse cursor, as sometimes you can learn to make a program 
accessible by finding and clicking the proper choices.  I've done this with 
Trojan Killer and before it PrevX, which  received some of the best ratings at 
the time.  I do think I am switching to 
Kaspersky, as it does get great reviews, and with all of us having to use pcs 
for electronic banking these days (or bill paying, or other critical 
functions), we can't afford to have a virus/trojan in our lives.  It's my same 
reasoning which causes me to urge everyone here to use the paid version of 
Window-Eyes, so that you have support, because your pc is usually quite 
critical to your daily life.

Yes, MSE isn't the best, but I still recommend it to people who have no sighted 
help ever, or who won't spend money for anti-malware.  It's better than nothing.

Chip






Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:25 PM
To: Brice Mijares; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: casperski antivirus

I have never used Kaspersky with Window-Eyes. However, it may offer some 
degree of accessibility and it is the antimalware program I chose to use 
as of a few months ago, after Microsoft Security Essentials failed to 
protect me against a rather crippling virus. I use it because it is one 
of the top-rated antivirus packages on the market and I refuse to 
compromise my computer's security in the name of accessibility.
I am, as some people may know, extremely passionate and a bit militant 
about this issue and I apologize if I come off too strong about this. 
However, blind people need to consider that we need to use the security 
software which is highly-rated, rather than choosing the package that 
works best with a screen reader but which may not offer an acceptable 
level of protection. I am trying to dialog with Kaspersky regarding 
these issues and I plan to continue to do so until accessibility is 
improved. I would like to strongly urge all of you to do the same. If 
one person contacts a company, they may be less inclined to act. If many 
of us contact them with the same concerns, particularly if we're paying 
customers, perhaps we'll get results which will be more favorable to us.
So many of us, myself included, find it easier to choose a security 
program because it works best with whatever screen reader we happen to 
be using. When it comes to the security of my computer, that is no 
longer acceptable to me. For years, I relied upon MSE because it was 
speech-friendly. I'm also an extremely cautious, responsible and 
security-conscious user but these traits are no longer enough to keep 
you safe. I now insist on using security software which is highly-rated, 
meaning that it gets excellent scores with independent lab tests. If 
it's not accessible, I am willing to engage in constructive dialog with 
the company and I will go to incredible lengths to do this but, in the 
end my goal is to make it accessible.

On 8/6/2015 2:45 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> Not at all! My notebook running 8.1 came with it and after upgrading 
> yesterday to windows 10 I was glad to see it was gone.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey via Talk" 
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> To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:33 AM
> Subject: casperski antivirus
>
>
>> Hi just wondering is casperski antivirus useable with window-eyes?
>> Last I heard it wasn't but just wondering if things changed or not in 
>> that regard.
>>
>>
>> -- 
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