With all due respect, Gary, I would suggest taking a closer look at the
blog and reading the entire actual report. My read of it is that using
antivirus software is a given. The true focus is on the fact that there
are other things we should be doing to up our security, i.e. unique and
strong passwords, use a password manager, and keep our operating systems
and applications up to date. The assumption of antivirus use is why
these things were in their top list. There was also a much higher use of
Linux among the experts, which changes the whole equation.
From the blog:
Experts acknowledged the benefits of antivirus software, but expressed
concern that it might give users a false sense of security since it’s
not a bulletproof solution.
From the report:
1. note that antivirus effectiveness and vulnerability to malware
infections are dependent on user behavior in various respects, from
whether users install antivirus software, to how users configure
their antivirus software, to what websites they visit. They found
that 38% of the participants in their study were exposed to malware
that antivirus software cleaned, so they demonstrate that the behavior
to install and configure antivirus software can actually make
users more secure.
2. Some non-expert practices were considered “good” by experts (e.g.,
install antivirus software,
use strong passwords); others were not (e.g., delete cookies,
visit only known websites).
Regards,
Tom
On 8/8/2015 6:17 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:
Heres the link for those who are interested.
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2015/07/new-research-comparing-how-
security.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 7:46 AM
To: gary melconian <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: casperski antivirus
Okay, so what do they recommend? Pam.
-----Original Message-----
From: gary melconian via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'Chip Orange' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'David Goldfield'
Subject: RE: casperski antivirus
If you want to know none of the security experts recommend antivirus. They
recommend two step authentication and a few other security procutions but
anti virus was not on the list of the security experts. I have decided to
follow what the security experts do and not what the so called regular
consumer does.
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From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 9:14 AM
To: David Goldfield <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion
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Subject: RE: casperski antivirus
I think this is good advice David, but a lot depends on whether you have
reasonable access to sighted help if there's a problem. There are blind
people who just don't ever.
To those who are resistant to trying the best anti-malware programs, I
suggest do try to use to mouse cursor, as sometimes you can learn to make a
program accessible by finding and clicking the proper choices. I've done
this with Trojan Killer and before it PrevX, which received some of the
best ratings at the time. I do think I am switching to Kaspersky, as it
does get great reviews, and with all of us having to use pcs for electronic
banking these days (or bill paying, or other critical functions), we can't
afford to have a virus/trojan in our lives. It's my same reasoning which
causes me to urge everyone here to use the paid version of Window-Eyes, so
that you have support, because your pc is usually quite critical to your
daily life.
Yes, MSE isn't the best, but I still recommend it to people who have no
sighted help ever, or who won't spend money for anti-malware. It's better
than nothing.
Chip
Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:25 PM
To: Brice Mijares; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: casperski antivirus
I have never used Kaspersky with Window-Eyes. However, it may offer some
degree of accessibility and it is the antimalware program I chose to use as
of a few months ago, after Microsoft Security Essentials failed to protect
me against a rather crippling virus. I use it because it is one of the
top-rated antivirus packages on the market and I refuse to compromise my
computer's security in the name of accessibility.
I am, as some people may know, extremely passionate and a bit militant about
this issue and I apologize if I come off too strong about this.
However, blind people need to consider that we need to use the security
software which is highly-rated, rather than choosing the package that works
best with a screen reader but which may not offer an acceptable level of
protection. I am trying to dialog with Kaspersky regarding these issues and
I plan to continue to do so until accessibility is improved. I would like to
strongly urge all of you to do the same. If one person contacts a company,
they may be less inclined to act. If many of us contact them with the same
concerns, particularly if we're paying customers, perhaps we'll get results
which will be more favorable to us.
So many of us, myself included, find it easier to choose a security program
because it works best with whatever screen reader we happen to be using.
When it comes to the security of my computer, that is no longer acceptable
to me. For years, I relied upon MSE because it was speech-friendly. I'm also
an extremely cautious, responsible and security-conscious user but these
traits are no longer enough to keep you safe. I now insist on using security
software which is highly-rated, meaning that it gets excellent scores with
independent lab tests. If it's not accessible, I am willing to engage in
constructive dialog with the company and I will go to incredible lengths to
do this but, in the end my goal is to make it accessible.
On 8/6/2015 2:45 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
Not at all! My notebook running 8.1 came with it and after upgrading
yesterday to windows 10 I was glad to see it was gone.
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Hi just wondering is casperski antivirus useable with window-eyes?
Last I heard it wasn't but just wondering if things changed or not in
that regard.
--
Casey
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